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Red October1984 07-03-13 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2078936)
Sorry, I don't have a video camera. Also what you'd see would be a group of people standing around talking. Occasionally one of them would get down on hands and knees and push the stand around a little, then wait for the next one to make his move. When someone was properly lined up he would roll some dice. If the shot was good people would make comments. If it was real good then the victim would roll some dice to see if the damage was critical. They they would do it all over again.

Like I said, ten to twenty minutes for a game turn representing five seconds of actual flying. Fun to do, not so exciting to watch. :dead:

Ah...well... :arrgh!:

I'm sure it would be really fun. If only I could play with my soon-to-be P-40B. :cool:

Sailor Steve 07-03-13 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2079087)
I'm sure it would be really fun. If only I could play with my soon-to-be P-40B. :cool:

Years ago we had a fairly large group. One of the regular questions was "What should I build first?" We always suggested that the new player just borrow whatever was needed, and build whatever struck his fancy. The way our system works makes it possible for players to have pilots with their own careers. Some have developed aces with 5, 10 or 20+ kills. I've done that, but I also have pilots with many missions and no kills. Like any personalized game it can develop in a number of ways. These days the biggest part is just socializing.

I would recommend asking at the local hobby shops if they know of any Mustangs & Messerschitts groups. If that doesn't work you might try Craigslist, though I doubt any groups would be using that method to look for new players. Still, it doesn't hurt to try.

Sailor Steve 07-03-13 09:01 PM

After three coats of primer and a whole lot of sanding the fuselage was finally ready. Yesterday afternoon I cut out the lower wing. An hour last night and two more hours today were spent cutting out the lower wing and sanding it down (I said vac kits required a lot of that). It has to be done very carefully since once you take off too much there's no way to put it back. The wings on more modern planes are thicker and like most kits come in two halves. WW1 aircraft have thin wings and there is no real underside.

So after sanding a little bit here and a tiny bit more there it was finally ready. The kit was designed so the lower wing is one piece that slots into the fuselage for structural strength. I had to carefully cut in from the back of the fuselage and fit the wing. This took an hour or so of fiddling and adjusting until it was right. Once it was glued in and completely dry I added some superglue to the insides for more strength. Once that was dry another coat of primer went over the whole thing and I'm done for the night.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps4f142fda.jpg

Cybermat47 07-03-13 09:25 PM

Steve, are you going to paint it in the colours of the aircraft you described a page ago?

Sailor Steve 07-03-13 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2079224)
Steve, are you going to paint it in the colours of the aircraft you described a page ago?

Which description was that? I looked and I'm not sure which you mean.

The current answer is "I don't know." The few pictures I've looked at seem to describe either a white fuselage and linen wings, somewhat like the Bleriot, or all white. I ordered a book that will help a lot, but it hasn't come yet and with a national holiday tomorrow it won't come until Friday at the earliest, possibly Moday or even later. I have to either make a decision without the book or stop work until it comes, since with this type of biplane it needs to be painted before the top wing goes on. Part of me wants to wait for the book, and part of me wants to press on now, not wait five days before resuming work.

I hate decisions.

Red October1984 07-03-13 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2079166)
Years ago we had a fairly large group. One of the regular questions was "What should I build first?" We always suggested that the new player just borrow whatever was needed, and build whatever struck his fancy. The way our system works makes it possible for players to have pilots with their own careers. Some have developed aces with 5, 10 or 20+ kills. I've done that, but I also have pilots with many missions and no kills. Like any personalized game it can develop in a number of ways. These days the biggest part is just socializing.

I would recommend asking at the local hobby shops if they know of any Mustangs & Messerschitts groups. If that doesn't work you might try Craigslist, though I doubt any groups would be using that method to look for new players. Still, it doesn't hurt to try.

I'll look into that. We don't really have a Hobby Shop. We have a Hobby Lobby and that's it.

I wish we had a good Hobby Shop but the next best thing would probably be the Boy Scout Store. :hmmm:

I'll look around. :arrgh!:

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2079224)
Steve, are you going to paint it in the colours of the aircraft you described a page ago?

I don't remember the aircraft a page ago...but it was probably awesome.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2079228)
I hate decisions.

My major decision today was "Landing gear up?....or down?"

I ended up leaving them down so I can set it up on my shelf. :rock:

I also had to decide between Drop Tank and Bomb but that was an easy decision. :sunny:

Sailor Steve 07-04-13 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2079247)
My major decision today was "Landing gear up?....or down?"

I ended up leaving them down so I can set it up on my shelf. :rock:

That's usually the first decision for anything with retracts, and that's usually the way it comes out, and for the same reason. All of mine are "wheels up" these days because of the whole game thing. They store more easily without wheels and they look silly "flying" with wheels down.

On the other hand since I'm doing mostly WW1 anymore it doesn't matter.

Sailor Steve 07-04-13 07:19 AM

Now I have a dilemma. I ordered a booklet on the Voisin awhile ago, and it still hasn't come. If I wait for it I might not see it before Monday, maybe later. If I make a decision as to finish now then the $25 spent for the book is wasted. I can't start another project because the next few I want to do are kits on order.

Probably I'll see what still needs repairing and rigging. there are more than a few that need some attention. I didn't do them during my original fixing frenzy because what needs to be done was minor and the planes were still in good enough condition to play with.

Jimbuna 07-04-13 09:12 AM

I've looked at colour schemes and can only find white or beige examples so I'm wondering if that is what you would be restricted to?

http://www.wwiaviation.com/french_2seaters1914.html

http://www.md-11.org/voisin.htm

http://www.jitterbuzz.com/MAN_1965_01.HTML

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...um-Photo-Diary

Sailor Steve 07-04-13 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2079363)
I'm wondering if that is what you would be restricted to?

A specific scheme. Windsock Datafiles show dozens of photographs with detailed analysis, plus closeups of specific parts of the aircraft. sometimes they'll even uncover rare camoflaged versions. It's more question of paying good money for a source and then making a decision without ever even seeing it.

Jimbuna 07-04-13 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2079445)
A specific scheme. Windsock Datafiles show dozens of photographs with detailed analysis, plus closeups of specific parts of the aircraft. sometimes they'll even uncover rare camoflaged versions. It's more question of paying good money for a source and then making a decision without ever even seeing it.

I've just had a look...great specialist site...obviously quality and detail come at a price.

Sailor Steve 07-04-13 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2079516)
I've just had a look...great specialist site...obviously quality and detail come at a price.

They manage to have great pictures of the most minute details. That's the only reason I knew about the ropes holding the gear mountings on the Bleriot.

Sailor Steve 07-04-13 07:51 PM

With nothing else to do I went ahead and prepped the upper wing. This one only took about two hours total. It won't be mounted until the fuselage is painted, but it's ready now.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps16aa1fee.jpg

Red October1984 07-04-13 10:18 PM

Looks kinda big.

What scale is this? :hmmm:

Jimbuna 07-05-13 05:08 AM

ROFLMAO....follow the thread or at least read before you post :o

:):03:

Sailor Steve 07-05-13 09:31 AM

Leave 'im alone, Jim. He can't help himself.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2036879)
I've just had a question from Red October1984 in the 'What Are You Doing Now In Real Life' thread about the airplane game, and rather than go into a lengthy explanation with pictures there I figured I'd do it here...

The models are mostly 1/72 scale...

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2076506)
What is that scale anyway 1/144th?

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2076576)
Twice that size - 1/72.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2078662)
The aircraft models are all 1/72 scale.

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Originally Posted by Red October1984 (Post 2079674)
What scale is this? :hmmm:


Umm...

Jimbuna 07-05-13 09:39 AM

LOL :)

Sailor Steve 07-07-13 06:40 PM

Well, the book didn't come Friday, and it didn't come Saturday, so today I decided to work on some more ships. This is the Scout class of 1885. Called 'Torpedo Cruisers', they were the first attempt to make a seagoing torpedo boat. Later they were reclassified as '3rd Class Cruisers'.

The ships were about the size of a WW2 destroyer. While this makes them small compared to a battleship, alongside a locomotive they were huge. It's hard to look at a tiny model and remember that these ships were 225 feet long and displaced 1,600 tons.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps543d1a63.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps847a76e1.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps80374c55.jpg

Red October1984 07-07-13 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2079735)
ROFLMAO....follow the thread or at least read before you post :o

:):03:

Ah...foot in mouth once again. :har:

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2079804)
Leave 'im alone, Jim. He can't help himself.

Umm...

I've been following the thread but I forget some of the details.

That must be a close up picture because 1:72 looks smaller than that. :hmmm:

Sailor Steve 07-07-13 10:58 PM

Take another look at post #143. The Voisin had a body barely big enough to fit the two crewmen, but it had a 48' wingspan, ten feet more than a P-38 and almost half that of a B-17.


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