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Anthony W. 07-16-11 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1705968)
Fair enough. As I said, I was curious. Mostly because if there is one thing I learned from my own experience, it is that people who haven't been in such situation don't have any idea what it can be like. Their closest relation is usually seeing something like that from TV and that's what they base their responses on as well. Which are usually along the lines "I would have kicked them in the nuts, then whipped out a gun and shot them all."

Totally agree. I thought I knew what a "dangerous" situation was - I found out the hard way that I didn't. Kind of like how you're never too afraid of death till its staring you in the face.

Stealhead 07-16-11 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1705891)
Well, the reason i say a dove load would leave a nasty wound is because ive seen what those rounds will do, only on inanimate objects. They can do more damage then you'd think.

As for legality's. Im not worried about that. Most states have a castle law. California does, as does Utah.

The only reason i would consider non lethal rounds is to appease the wife to be. If i had my way, id have the weapon charged, and ready to rock. But that makes her uncomfortable and she's also thinking down the line when we have kids. So i have to compromise.

Personally I feel that a fully loaded fire arm in a place where there are young children present is simply too dangerous.Years back my older sister myself and my cousin where sitting on my uncle and aunts bed the whole family was there it was a reunion or something(not sure I was too young to be remember this was in 78')My sister was about 3 and my cousin about 5.Anyway my uncle used to leave a locked and loaded M1911 on his dresser well their just happened to no adults in the room and my mom and dad did not think of it as they never had any guns inside the house and my uncle just did not think of it either.My aunt came into the room and my sister has this .45 in her hands and the barrel was pointed at my cousins head my aunt was smart enough not to act like the gun was of much value(you know how kids are with interesting objects)and took the gun away from her.After that my uncle has never had a fully loaded weapon in his home.

I also do not keep fully loaded weapons in my house at max I will have a handgun with a magazine beside out but not inside it and the the gun will also be on safe and most times I keep in one of those finger safes.I dont spend much time worrying about needing a fully loaded weapon near me at all times.

I just don't see the need to have that level of alertness at all times(unless some local event warrants it) thinking this way to me is worrying about something that is pretty unlikely to ever happen and the odds are that if something ever does happen I will be able to get to my weapon in time to make it ready.I got a conceal carry license a few years back more for the hell of it than anything I had a buddy that was going to a course and he asked me to come with him so I did.Sometimes I have a handgun with me other times I don't.

I know a guy that carries a handgun everywhere with him in his home even to take a dump I think that is way over the top that guy is putting the level of stress that a person in combat is under for no real reason.The funny thing is this same guy never wears a seat belt which I find a bit odd as he is far more likely to die or be hurt in a car accident than he is to be the victim of a violent crime.

The only thing that is dangerous that wonders on to my turf are black bears and coyotes(I dot know how coyotes wound up in FL but they are here have been since the late 80's some say they escaped from hunting reserves) You cant shot a black bear unless it is directly endangering you and the coyotes get scared away by my dogs most times.

Black bears I find rather dislike the sound of a shotgun going off so I will pop a round off into the trees(in a direction where there is not a house for over a mile) and they split.

Tribesman 07-16-11 01:54 AM

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No, he shouldnt give you a damn break, its an effin firearm.
Morts, it is just a nonsense thread again.

Hottentot 07-16-11 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1705990)
Morts, it is just a nonsense thread again.

Bread and circuses :DL

Tribesman 07-16-11 02:03 AM

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Bread and circuses
What is going to be the next round?
No hold on I know, what sort of shotgun should I consider buying as I am planning on going hunting frigging wolverines.
Or maybe I am looking for a mid sized town car, should I buy a Vespa or a Peterbuilt.

MH 07-16-11 02:09 AM

A good starter kit

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...qjkZbo5sAiLjbO

Anthony W. 07-16-11 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1705990)
Morts, it is just a nonsense thread again.

Everybody, Tribesman is just confusing is rear end with his brain again. Don't worry about him.

Platapus 07-16-11 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1705987)
I know a guy that carries a handgun everywhere with him in his home even to take a dump .....


I knew a guy like that. He carried his hand gun everywhere in his apartment and never entered his apartment without his gun in his hand. He would then systematically clear each room of his apartment. He did this for about 8 months after he came home one day and caught a burglar in his apartment and the burglar had a gun!

Fortunately, I was able to talk the burglar to leave without shooting me. It was in 1982 when I was living in Utah.

Things like that an affect on people.

Morts 07-16-11 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1706000)
Everybody, Tribesman is just confusing is rear end with his brain again. Don't worry about him.

seems more like that is what you're doing

Hottentot 07-16-11 08:09 AM

The Internet is serious business :o

Krauter 07-16-11 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1706000)
Everybody, Tribesman is just confusing is rear end with his brain again. Don't worry about him.

I'm sorry but to me it just sounds a bit like showmanship. People here have suggested pistols and shotguns that would be useful and safe to both yourself and bystanders and you choose a .44.. Next you state that you don't care about collateral damage you just want that 'one shot, one kill' and feel like Dirty Harry...

Same as the weight loss thread where you're just trying to go to an extreme length when the people in that thread posted safer, more efficient and more effective means. Why post the thread asking the questions when you're not even going to take into account what people are telling you, let alone answer points or make rude suggestions when people question your motives?

Anyways, just wanted to get that out there since everytime I read the last thread and this one I just chuckle a little bit. I'm sure it'll be the same for the next thread but we'll just have to wait and see.

Tribesman 07-16-11 10:42 AM

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Everybody, Tribesman is just confusing is rear end with his brain again.
So that is from someone who is in industry and is at school and is carrying out ground breaking extremely advanced experimental scientific research all at the same time:hmmm:
Confusing eh
Given the simple maths and logic problems displayed I would say that probably confused schoolboy with mental issues is the correct version:yep:

Feuer Frei! 07-16-11 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1706147)
SUBSIM is serious business :o

Fixed.

MH 07-16-11 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot (Post 1706147)
The Internet is serious business :o


http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...BH5pfdKz-zIDqg

Anthony W. 07-16-11 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1706208)
So that is from someone who is in industry and is at school and is carrying out ground breaking extremely advanced experimental scientific research all at the same time:hmmm:

So what if thats what interests me? In my spare time, instead of playing sports, I conduct research and development. Instead of telling everyone I know about the latest gossip, I'm taking to my friends about new sets of chemical and physical bonds between components that create and interesting set of properties.

Problem with that?

And - I am taking into account what people are telling me. Whether or not it SEEMS like it - I am. This thread is also confusing - so many people saying so many different things.

Now - how does everyone feel about the M1911? Is it solid? Does it have some decent stopping power?

And - my state really DOESN'T care much about what kind of damage I do to my own possessions. I could take explosives and blow a hole in my garage without it being a problem (exaggeration). Hell, last year I shot off a fireworks mortar and it failed. Lit the back field on fire - I put it out - no problem other than that I smelled like smoke.

Krauter 07-16-11 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1706261)

Now - how does everyone feel about the M1911? Is it solid? Does it have some decent stopping power?

*Goes through 11 page thread... Sees its been mentioned about a dozen times..*

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And - I am taking into account what people are telling me. Whether or not it SEEMS like it - I am.
Sure seems like it.

Oberon 07-16-11 01:02 PM

M1911 has a lot of good reviews, it's solid, rugged, and reliable. The design hasn't changed much at all over the hundred years it's been around, which means if it ain't broke... :03:

MH 07-16-11 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1706261)
So what if thats what interests me? In my spare time, instead of playing sports, I conduct research and development. Instead of telling everyone I know about the latest gossip, I'm taking to my friends about new sets of chemical and physical bonds between components that create and interesting set of properties.

Problem with that?

And - I am taking into account what people are telling me. Whether or not it SEEMS like it - I am. This thread is also confusing - so many people saying so many different things.

Now - how does everyone feel about the M1911? Is it solid? Does it have some decent stopping power?

And - my state really DOESN'T care much about what kind of damage I do to my own possessions. I could take explosives and blow a hole in my garage without it being a problem (exaggeration). Hell, last year I shot off a fireworks mortar and it failed. Lit the back field on fire - I put it out - no problem other than that I smelled like smoke.

Gee man.....get your self a Glock or other 9mm that feels comfortable do some good training and thats it.
That's most practical convenient and "fun" solution.

If you are into Dirty Harry thing that maybe understandable because you are young but its not practical actually pretty useless bull.

Morts 07-16-11 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony W. (Post 1706261)
So what if thats what interests me? In my spare time, instead of playing sports, I conduct research and development. Instead of telling everyone I know about the latest gossip, I'm taking to my friends about new sets of chemical and physical bonds between components that create and interesting set of properties.

Alright Mr. Internet smart guy :up:
the more you sit there and brag about these things that you aparently do,
the less people believe you.

Anthony W. 07-16-11 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1706288)
If you are into Dirty Harry thing that maybe understandable because you are young but its not practical actually pretty useless bull.

To be honest - not really into Dirty Harry - just Clint Eastwood


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