Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.

What about the numerous school districts that already require them?

There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

Dress codes are different, but those actually make some sense to prevent teens from coming to school almost naked.

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.

We did a poll at my school to see how people would feel about school uniforms. Every single person said that they would hate it and it wouldn't work.

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Kid, you're 18. You don't know everything, you just think you do. Things are a lot different in the real world than they are in the world in your head.

That's why we don't let 13-17 year olds vote and sign contracts.

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

And how does this affect your argument/the arguments of anyone else?

I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

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We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

In the real world you'd never have to worry about what colleges do or don't require if you believe high school is for "chillin with friends" instead of learning.

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

Few things of value are learned from classes in high school.

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

Please quote where I said "everything in school is right". Or where I implied that. I simply understand that academic forums are simply that...academic forums. We don't learn by having things spewed at us, we learn through discourse and rhetoric. Uniforms simply level the playing field of the forum. Those who can't hang will raise cane about it "killing the individual".

And I really don't care what you learned in fashion class. Neither should you since "few things of value" are learned through high school courses. And you tend to be arguing that "nothing in school is right" if you'll allow me to make assumptions as you have.

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if uniforms exist or not. I certainly HOPE that by the time I have kids and they're going to school, it's a fixture. If not, that's fine too. Those who want to learn will learn, those who don't will focus on the minutiae.

Put that on your college application and see how far it gets you. Better yet, put it on your job application under the "Education" section and see how far that gets you.