No problem.

Here are a few Google Earth Images of the ships, now the dates on some maybe old but the DPRK doesn't move their ships from coast to coast to the counts are accurate unless they scrapped the ship.

Their large base near Kwai:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1148/14766127.jpg
The surface ships there, the big ones on the left are Osa type boats:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1994/75360368.jpg

The base at Namp'o:
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/54/71742160.jpg

My understanding is that both SA-2s and ASCMs (including "silkworms") have been deployed to the Yellow Sea coastal area.

Here is an overview of the DPRK's known SAM Sites...
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4712/sams.jpg
The red Triangles are SA-2s.
The Light Blue Triangles are SA-3s.
The Purple Triangles are SA-5s
The Blue Circle is a 36D6 'TIN SHIELD' Radar Site.

From: http://geimint.blogspot.com/

Their air defense system looks fairly pathetic, actually. Combined with their air force being largely obsolete, I can't imagine that it would take longer than a couple of hours for South Korea/combined forces to have total air superiority in this...

Yeah, I'm reading a couple of sources about missiles being moved out to the yellow sea and other launch sites. Not entirely unexpected though, they have to rattle something in response to the exercises. I'm curious whether the situation happening now is what they wanted to achieve, or if they're a little scared themselves. We'll have to wait and see what the response will be now that China is calling for talks - perhaps they'll come running to the table.

He gets about...actually, tbh I haven't got a clue but the rest of it is funny. :03: Well, IMHO it is anyway.

Could have been this:

South Korean artillery accidentally fired into southern side of DMZ

Oops. Now imagine if they accidentally fired one into North Korea and that, accidentally of course, started a war.

This is why you don't let Bernard man the guns :timeout:

/facepalm

Why won't she just do everyone a favor and just go away?

Excellent point and observation. It's never the old ones who were alive to see the korean war that say, "F**k you GI!", or "GI go home!" its just everybody else that spits in our face.

I for one, never changed my support for ROK. I never willingly supported them, nor the DPRK. As far as im concerned, their little civil war is none of our concern, and i just assume let them pound each other back into the stone age.

Same ole ... same ole.....

I believe it. There are assets prepositioned all over the penninsula, as well as emergency runways.

How many subs?
 

Hi just for couriosity,

how many attacksubs do you think the USN is sending into the yellow sea as we are speaking?

Zero. They're already there.

Currently there are 25 USN attack subs at sea. Where they are is anyone's guess.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3141/610xsi.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6842/534543j.jpg
Somewhere there?

EDIT: Can't see any subs though...

Meanwhile in Seoul:

http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/f77ae6fa.jpg

"Damn it guys! How many time do I have to say it: Stop playing Harpoon in the CVIC!"

That is the whole reason we spend 3 billion USD on them...

Actually interesting images now that I look at them Obie.
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6931/csg73.jpg
Little short of the 200 km range reported on the HY-2, but in the reported range of the Turbojet HY-4 SSM (300 to 500 km)... :hmmm:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7...lkwormsite.jpg
Silkworm site my friends and I found in detail
http://img222.imageshack.us/i/silkwormsite.jpg

This is interesting if it's true.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/8...th-korea-leak/
Come to think of it ,it could make things worse there - North Korea does listen to China sometimes ,but if they think that China's ready to dump them, then they might start thinking "why should we listen to them" and just go ahead with whatever they want....

I think it's safe to assume SSN23 is still in town as well as at least one 688/774 attached to CSG-73. That's the floor.


TLAM, how does your mapmaker know where CSG-73 is in the Yellow Sea? Do you know if they've stayed outside the EEZ?

I tasked a RORSAT to find her...

Come on, it'll be interesting to know if they crossed that line because the Chinese have more or less given us that option to save face for both sides.

I read that too. Interesting stuff. But NK doesn't have a lot of options here. If they loose Chinas backing, they're sunk.

She is in the South Korean EEZ. Whether or not she crossed the line at any point I don't know.

Look closely at the photo Oberon Posted.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7272/610xsiedit.jpg

BTW I think the USS Houston SSN 713 is in the area. She pulled in to Chinhae on the 23. One of the Ohios surfaced in Korea late last month plus one in Guam. Plus I bet the ROKN has a one or two of those smart little AIP boats of theirs out and about, maybe a JMSDF sub out their too.