Ya' know, watching F1 (this is the first season I'm able to watch all the races, if I want) has made me suddenly grateful for the mute button and thankful for the fact that I don't have to read long articles about how Alonso was 'robbed' etc. etc.

The griping about Webber screwing up and taking himself and Kovalinen (sp) out of the race was bad enough, and then after the race...all this.

How do long time F1 fans put up with all the whining? Seriously, tell me, I think I need to develop the skill.:DL

We Ignore it, simple as that :haha:

One of the channels I recieve with the satalite is a Austrian channel who regulary broadcasts these Formula 1 races from the 80's, you'll see real men drive real cars and far less Bullsh!t by FIA.
just awesome to see those races :yeah:

HunterICX

Gotcha.

I've watched more of the older races than I have this season, I think, though I've never got to sit and watch the entire 1976 season or anything. Maybe I should.:03:

Not sure if anyone has already posted webbers crash, but here it is...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8766194.stm


This just shows how safe F1 is, but notice the tantrum webber has throwing out his steering wheel.

Shame Button didn't get in second.

I was reading on the BBC that apparently when the safety car came out if Hamilton hadn't hesitated and driven straight on it would have been ok as the SC was still behind the line.

I can see how Alonso is upset. Anyway I really want Button to win it. He might not have the outrioght 1 lap pace of Hamilton, but he has the race pace and the race craft to beat him. He set fastest lap in Valencia after all. He is also a good overtaker which some wouldn't have you believe. Just look at Brasil last year. I was surprised he didn't take Kobyashi out earlier but then again Valenica is rubbish for overtaking and having remembered his eralier tussles with Koba he didn't want to get himself taken out of the race.

Root for Button first and if he doesn't win it I'd like to see the title go to Mark Webber.

See you at Silverstone guys on Saturday. Only going for qaulifying this year to get my fill of up close and personal F1 action. :yeah:

Waming up for Silverstone by having Friday off work to be one of a few who will have a tour of the private Williams F1 Grand Prix Collection at Grove. No video allowed but I will take my DSLR to capture the afternoon. :D

Go Webber, Hamilton, and Button. :rock:

Speaking of Hamo and Jense not sure if this video has been posted yet. Another in the Macca series it seems of vids staring the two. This one is better than when they try to put the car together just because it stars the MP4 of Senna. Just awesome. :|\\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQCXE7DDuc

Konovalov, I may be in Spain but I can still brig you for making everyone jealous....

:)

We survive thanks to satellite broadcasting CART (Now Indy) and sometimes NASCAR :|\\

Yeah, that's the point everyone seems to have missed!!!

Go Jense, get the Silverstone Trophy home :yeah:

Lol. Well at least Spain won to proceed to their first final tonight otherwise it would have been a miserable night where you are. :woot:Hope you took plenty of shorts and t-shirts. I heard that it is stinking hot over there in Spain right now. :sunny:

And here is the link I forgot to post earlier of the Macca tour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQCXE7DDuc

Nice race and a great victory for Webber.:yeah:
I really don't get why he is regarded as the number two driver by the Red Bull officials. I think Red Bull has two number one drivers.:shifty:

Great win from Webber and also a fantastic drive from Hamilton who drove the wheels of his car again which kept Mark honest. Aussie grit does it again with win number 3. :yeah: And being at Silverstone for qualifying yesterday was fantastic.

RBR management continue to shoot themselves in the foot. Horner didn't show much excitement over the radio in congratulating Mark for the win. Contrast that to the last race with Vettel's win. Not to mention the poor handling of the front wing situation yesterday. :down:

And great day for Williams with both cars in the points. I'm sure the guys at Grove would be really happy today. Will post some photos of my Williams F1 museum tour from Friday. The largest private collection of F1 cars in the world and I got to touch Senna's Williams FW15D car. Also got to plant my behind in Ralph Scumacher and Jenson Button's FW22 2000 car. :D

Yeah, noticed that too.:down:
It really starts to p*ss me off....and I'm German.....

Tell you what I wish someone would cut Vettels index finger off.

Does it do anyone elses nut that he has to stick it in the air all the time when he gets pole?

How many times has he converted pole to a win.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but while driving for RBR has he ever won a race from anywhere but pole?

I hope Jenson however turns his wick up a bit more. He needs to start getting ahead of LH.

Yes, every time. :damn: Hence why he has earn't the nickname Finger Boy. I am just sick of it. We know he is on pole. The occassional fist pump would make a nice change. Quite frankly his finger waving has become as tiresome as Christian Horner's constant jibes at Eddie Jordan over his choice of shirt and attire.

This season only the once and that was in the last race in Valencia.

Again yes and only the once which was in Malaysia. I remember that well because my man Webber was on pole, left the door open, couldn't see Seb in his mirrors and Vettel snuck down the inside. End of race then and there and had to settle for 2nd behind Finger Boy.

Vettel has been on pole 5 times this season to Webber's four. Vettel has won two races while Webber has won three. To Vettel's credit he did manage to come through the field today thanks to the safety car otherwise he would have been no chance of even a point. He finally made passes on other cars although he also barged Sutil off the track to finnish 7th.

I never put that much significance to it....but I will now :DL

Well pole position tday didn't help Vettel, he finished third.

Congratulats to Alonso and Massa in the Ferrari for first and second.

Hamilton in fourth and Button in fifth did enough to maintain the first and second positions in the drivers table and McLaren top of the constructors table.

Why having rules if violation of rules gets punished so mildly? 100.000 bucks a team like Ferrari pays from the petty cash.

The points for both drivers and for the team should be nullified - that is the only reasonable sentence possible.

It's better to have no rules than to claim some rules - and then not enforcing them with determination. that undermines the authority and the reputation of the rulemaker. On the other hand - can there be anything more ruined in FIA's reputation and authority?

Ferrari would be willing to pay for every point it gains in the season a 100.000 dollar fee. So where is the deterrence?

i think the rule on prhibiting team orders, should be abandoned. But as long as the rule stands, you have to enforce it, for reason's sake. Else rules do not make sense.

Boooo hoooo!! :nope:

Exactly to every single word you have said. Forget the fine and take all the contructors points away for this race. As Ferrari keep saying that it is all about the team so take their points away. And Alonso needs to stop bitching and moaning ("This is ridiculous" comment today) and waving his hand out of the car every time he thinks someone in front of him is slowing him down. I want to see racing. Massa had equal pace of Alonso through out the race. He had track position number 1. The Red Bull of Vettel was no threat despite the rubbish that the Ferrari PR guys were spouting. Massa deserved the win today but instead he bent over and took it from behind. It wasn't for the team, it was for Alonso. What a joke. :down: