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SteamWake 01-18-10 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1239534)
I am surprised that the American media has not mentioned the agreement we just made with Cuba.

Cuba and the United States have had an agreement in place for limited access through their airspace for isolated emergency operations.

Due to recent negotiations, for the first time, we have an agreement for sustained access to Cuban airspace for aid operations in Haiti.

This is a very good thing and could open the door for other similar negotiations between Cuba and the United States. :salute:

or a token gesture by a crumbling regime ;)

Platapus 01-18-10 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1239551)
or a token gesture by a crumbling regime ;)

I believe nine other US Presidents all thought the same thing: Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton. And almost Bush Jr. :O:

SteamWake 01-18-10 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1239571)
I believe nine other US Presidents all thought the same thing: Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton. And almost Bush Jr. :O:

Yea but Fidel is dead and there is a puppet regime with little to no leverage in place now.

But this is a horrible digression from the topic at hand and I apologize.

Buddahaid 01-18-10 10:05 PM

Just read the death estimate is 200,000! Holy sh... that's hard to fathom.

AVGWarhawk 01-19-10 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1239534)
I am surprised that the American media has not mentioned the agreement we just made with Cuba.

Cuba and the United States have had an agreement in place for limited access through their airspace for isolated emergency operations.

Due to recent negotiations, for the first time, we have an agreement for sustained access to Cuban airspace for aid operations in Haiti.

This is a very good thing and could open the door for other similar negotiations between Cuba and the United States. :salute:

That was on the news last Friday I believe. :up:

Oberon 01-19-10 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo (Post 1239548)
That would be a good thing on many fronts Platypus...

As for airdrops - the 130 is a good bird but the 141 is more capable.

I meant more for landing on dirt based runways rather than airdrops. :hmmm:

SteamWake 01-19-10 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1239807)
I meant more for landing on dirt based runways rather than airdrops. :hmmm:

You know come to think of it the CB's were able to construct runways big enough for B25's in a week and that was in the 1940's. :yep:

Snestorm 01-19-10 10:36 AM

Mearsk Lines has donated the use of their container ships.

All aid going to Haiti sails for free (Gratis!)
Go Danmark!

http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/article/27912840/

Tribesman 01-19-10 10:49 AM

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You know come to think of it the CB's were able to construct runways big enough for B25's in a week and that was in the 1940's.
Did they build them in a week in mountains or on the flat bits of pacific islands?
Did they set off days or weeks in advance with a full plan for each location and all assets already assembled?

OneToughHerring 01-19-10 12:19 PM

I guess hope is dwindling in finding anyone alive anymore. I hope they stay and dig out all the bodies, might be good practice for the future.

Hope the diseases don't set in now, last thing needed would be a deadly epidemic. Even without an epidemic the death toll is rising due to lack of help in many areas.

AVGWarhawk 01-19-10 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1239892)
Did they build them in a week in mountains or on the flat bits of pacific islands?
Did they set off days or weeks in advance with a full plan for each location and all assets already assembled?


Well, I believe the Japanese cleared most of the fields if I remeber correctly. We took the island and completed the runway with material that could handle B17 and larger.

OneToughHerring 01-19-10 12:26 PM

And about the media covering this, I wonder if they'd be showing the bloody bodies and all that if it was a white nation, let alone the US? But because it's 'some black country' it's ok to show the full extent of the suffering.

In my country there was a big ferry accident, a ship called Estonia sank. There was footage of the bodies but it was kept from all of the media. The most that was shown were coffins.

SteamWake 01-19-10 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1239892)
Did they build them in a week in mountains or on the flat bits of pacific islands?
Did they set off days or weeks in advance with a full plan for each location and all assets already assembled?

Probably true but they also had the pesky problem of people lobbing munitions their way.

Still I wouldd be willing to guess though that at some point they were called in at the last minute with little prior notice.

SteamWake 01-19-10 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Steamwake
Then theres the dammed if you do and dammed if you dont... But hey consider the source ;)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...rpc=22&sp=true

Good old Hugo... he may be insane but he's consistant.

LOL looks like the French agree

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Originally Posted by Telegraph UK
France accused the US of "occupying" Haiti on Monday as thousands of American troops flooded into the country to take charge of aid efforts and security.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-flood-in.html

If it wasent so dire I would say.. hell lets pull our troops out and let france deal with the consiquences :rock:

AVGWarhawk 01-19-10 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1239941)
And about the media covering this, I wonder if they'd be showing the bloody bodies and all that if it was a white nation, let alone the US? But because it's 'some black country' it's ok to show the full extent of the suffering.

In my country there was a big ferry accident, a ship called Estonia sank. There was footage of the bodies but it was kept from all of the media. The most that was shown were coffins.


You're not serious are you?

SteamWake 01-19-10 03:27 PM

disaster porn

Noun.

When the media puts horrific or tragic images on a 24 hour loop, constantly driving them into your head, and then refers to the events portrayed as an "unspeakable tragedy" . .. .despite the fact that they have four different talking heads analyzing it 24 hours a day. Often times disaster porn is used to generate financial support. Most commonly associated with 9/11, where every mention of the "terrorist outrage" was followed by an infomercial for NYPD t-shirts and American flag bumper stickers.

"This is just horrible. I can't even bear to look." Said Geraldo Rivera as he rewound the disaster porn tape of the World Trade Center collapsing for the 10,000th time that day. "Buy 'I LOVE AMERICA' bumper stickers and NYPD hats now!"

Dowly 01-19-10 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1239941)
In my country there was a big ferry accident, a ship called Estonia sank. There was footage of the bodies but it was kept from all of the media. The most that was shown were coffins.

And what country would that be? Cant be Finland because they sure as hell showed bodies in the news when it happened.

AVGWarhawk 01-19-10 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1240109)
And what country would that be? Cant be Finland because they sure as hell showed bodies in the news when it happened.


I was a ridiculas comment from OTH...9/11 we saw all the news had to offer on blood shed and suffering. Hell, they showed the people jumping out of the twin towers and at least 50 floors up. The media was not shy about that.

Katrina...we got the full effect there as well.


Looks like a bait post to me :hmmm:

OneToughHerring 01-19-10 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1240109)
And what country would that be? Cant be Finland because they sure as hell showed bodies in the news when it happened.

I don't remember any bodies from Estonia. There were plenty of pictures taken but very few if any shown in the media, tv or newspapers.

Oh yea, Katrina. The dead bodies you saw were those of black people.

As far as 9/11, there were images of people falling but not the actual corpses or dying people. Even in the documentaries the dead bodies are edited out. Not so with this earthquake.

Dowly 01-19-10 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1240132)
I don't remember any bodies from Estonia. There were plenty of pictures taken but very few if any shown in the media, tv or newspapers.

There was pictures and videos shown on news and on newspapers.

Remember? :-?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Kx3pIYK9tA/0.jpg


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