Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213156)

Two days ago german media reported that near Kiel (Laboe, that place that some of you just have visted during the subsim meeting) a not so small moonfish was found stranded on the beach, and died. Another, even bigger moonfish still swims in the area, they say. The size is such that these fishes cannot have lived in somebody's private aquarium and then got released.

Moonfishes normally live in tropical waters.

Sightings of exotic jellyfish, even dangerous Australian species, happend to take place on the British coasts occasionally, that was rare but nothing new. But in the past years, the number of sightings have gone way up - and now occur not only on the British coasts anymore. Could be due to rising temperature. Could also be due to changing ph-values. could also be due to both, which is the most likely explanation. Globally the ph-values are chnaging such that the oceans become more prehistoric again, tougher to bear for normal fish, but more pleasant for yellyfish. In some places they have started to mess up fishe'S breeding grounds and bringing up a stable next generation. Yellyfish problems are becoming a global phenomenon - and that is not about people getting stung.

Insects are even more an indicator for chnaging climate zones, and boundaries of equatorial, warm places moving north. Many exotic species are moving into Europe, for example.

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1213172)

It was a gift, c'mon, man! :cool:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 1213174)

An other moonfish found a mile from home.


http://www.dvhn.nl/nieuws/nederland/...strand_Katwijk

In 2005 there were 15 strandings of Moonfishes.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1213177)

Are you a politician? There are rules for gifts if you are a politician unless of course if you are a Chicago politician were no rules apply to anything. :03:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1213172)

It was a gift, c'mon, man! :cool:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1213200)

Al Gore cancels climate lecture in Copenhagen...

No reason given :doh:

It's breaking news and not much out there on it yet.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/gore-can...n-a-lurch.html

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213236)

I am not familiar with moonfishes, and only quote the media. the only thing I know is that they do not stop growing all life long, thus can become very big. They said there are several types of moonfishes, and the one being found near Kiel belongs to warm waters in tropical regions. So far I only knew that the lived in the waters around Japan, and often are met by Japanese fishermen.

I assume the prefer to meet a giant moonfish than to meet those giant yellyfishes they have over there, too - in swarms. :-?

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213341)

Could be, I was just translating from the German name, "Mondfisch".

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1213469)

Well, whatever the case the fish is not supposed to be there! Attributed to global warming? I can not say for sure. Whales and dolphins beach themselves. Sometimes in places they do not belong. Some say the echo location/bearing mechanism distorts their sense of direction. Another phenominon yet to be explained fully from what I understand.

Originally Posted by The Washington Times

The fight over global warming science is about to cross the Atlantic with a U.S. researcher poised to sue NASA, demanding release of the same kind of climate data that has landed a leading British center in hot water over charges it skewed its data.

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 1213483)

If it were a sunfish belonging to a species living in the Atlantic, it could have been that the pair trapped itself when travelling into the Skagerrak and Kattegat. We have seen rare events of other big fishes and wahles not belonging to the Baltic. But if the sunfishes belonged indeed, as they claim, to a species living in tropical waters only, then this means "warm" waters, and then you have top explain why they swam thousands of kilomters through waters that were "too cold" for them.

The stranding of whales and dolphins does not compare to this, it usually is not attributed to warming temperatures in the ocean, but due to underwater sound pollution, shallow beaches, virusses, and the leading animal having become insane and the others following their leader, the thepries are many with sound pollution being the most prominent one. We do not know for sure, but the indications for sound pollution seem to be the strongest by far. That means not only sonar, but for the most it means propellers and engines. Sonar seem to be a problem not in polluting the envrinonment constantly, but by hurting and doing physical damage to the animals' brain, sonar apparatus, and other tissues.