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A Very Super Market 01-16-09 05:16 PM

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I've never even heard of this movie...

snakeyez 01-16-09 05:49 PM

You've never heard of this movie because it is still being created.

The film crew is supposed to be back at the USS Drum sometime in the near future for more filming, last I heard.

LiveGoat 01-16-09 11:16 PM

I can't believe I missed out on this. Would loved to have auditioned for it.:damn:

jazzabilly 01-17-09 01:33 AM

This looks like yet another Hollywood attempt to make a competent submarine movie. I will bet a day's pay that it will be craptastic.

jazzabilly 01-17-09 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody34
HBO films...the series Band of Brothers... may not be a 2 hour movie (its like a 14 part mini-series) was EXCELLENT. for those that havent seen it...it follows a group of us 101st (I think) Airborne, Easy Company, from training, to being positioned in the UK, through D-day, and the end of the war.

Great thing is each episode was introduced with the actual guys (to include thier squad leader (2nd lt) who eventually became thier company commander). who fought in the battles.... VERY cool for realism, as well as very sobering when the soldiers found Berknau (spelling?) concentration camp near the end.

It was very good; suitable level of gore, and quite a few of the central characters buy the farm or are hideously wounded.

Not to nitpick, but they discover Landsberg Concentration camp. The other historical inaccuracy however, is that they take the Berghof which was actually destroyed by bombing. Besides that, the 3rd Infantry captured it, not the 101. Poetic license, I suppose.

snakeyez 03-02-09 08:15 PM

I understand that more filming for USS Seaviper will be underway sometime within the next couple of months.

Even more exciting to me is the upcoming "The Untold Story" documentary on the USS Drum (SS-228) in production by the same crew!

http://www.ussdrum228story.com

The documentary is supposed to be released in 2010 with partial proceeds going towards the restoration of USS Drum.

They have interviewed many Drum veterans and are still working hard on this documentary.

Please keep it in mind, as I'm sure it will be an interesting look at WWII submarine life and it will also help upkeep the Drum, which is in need of help as most of you know.

Max2147 03-02-09 10:09 PM

Well, as long as it's helping keep USS Drum in one piece, I guess it's worth the trouble.

I might get hanged from the nearest tree for saying this, but I loved Down Periscope. It didn't have an ounce of accuracy in it, but it's still hilarious if you can suspend your disbelief.

Stealhead 03-03-09 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Honkas
"The Bridge on the River Kwai" is actually a british/UK film - but still awesome!

Yes a good movie but very off the mark as to what really happened and the real rail bridge was steal not wood like it was in that movie it is an insult to allied POWS of Japan to be honest go to the D-Day museum in New Orleans they have some very good docs there about the war and they are graphic no kiddies allowed inside I saw some WWII vets walk out and others where crying it was that good. This Seaviper sounds pretty stupid and I dont know myself it seems kind of scamish the USS Drum procedes thingy :hmmm:. I will pass thank you on both if you want to really help any old sub I say go to its location or look it up on the web and ask to donate yourself directly thats the best way to do it. This Seaviper sounds like it is low budget like this sucker is a G movie when most are A or B movies even if it is legit not much money is going to be made.

A Very Super Market 03-03-09 02:05 AM

Wait, why is it an insult to POWs?

IRL, Saito was portrayed fairly accurately as a not sadistic camp officer.

Stealhead 03-03-09 02:17 AM

Uh I am guessing that you are being sarcasitc? you could always use a little :O: or a :haha: to throw somebody a bone. Casue that might ahve been a good movie but it was way off like most movies are but sadly it seems that many people base historical fact on movies very often. If you are being serious dont waste your time with me as I know I am right just to let you know.:03: That last sentance was not sarcasim.

@ the guy that was bieng picky on Band of Brothers that show was based on a book by Stephen E. Ambrose that was 100% factual and he wrote the book after talking to many of the men who where in 101 506th E company and they filmed an hour or so long doc where they spoke with the Easy company guys that are still alive and the producers and Ambrose all went through to make sure the things shown where accurate and they checked with the Easy company men as well. they where at Berchtesgaden the city that the Berghof was near not the Berghof itself which was bombed though soliders did go to look at it. http://www.ww2-airborne.us/18corps/1..._overview.html
http://www.ww2-airborne.us/units/506/506.html make sure that you read the entire pages.

snakeyez 03-03-09 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead
...This Seaviper sounds pretty stupid and I dont know myself it seems kind of scamish the USS Drum procedes thingy :hmmm:. I will pass thank you on both if you want to really help any old sub I say go to its location or look it up on the web and ask to donate yourself directly thats the best way to do it. This Seaviper sounds like it is low budget like this sucker is a G movie when most are A or B movies even if it is legit not much money is going to be made.

And you obviously don't know what you are talking about. The USS Seaviper movie, while yes it may be low budget and you may not be able to go to your local theater to see it upon release (it could be a limited screen release or straight to DVD), the heart is in it. See, the guy who is doing this, director Ralph Villani, his father SERVED on the USS Drum in WWII. P.J. Villani, EM2c, was on the Drum for what would have been the 14th war patrol if the war hadn't ended before they reached their patrol station. Heck Ralph Villani was an EM3c himself back in '66 - '70.

And as far as giving to a museum submarine, you have to be VERY cautious about to whom you give your money to. If you visit Battleship Memorial Park and just make a donation to the Park, or use the "make a donation" link through the Battleship Memorial Park website, I can almost guarantee you that the Drum will never see a penny. There are funds out there for the Drum, and sometimes where to give isn't so obvious, especially in places where there is more on display than just a submarine (like USS Alabama battleship). I have tried to simplify the donation process for the Drum on the Drum228.org website as best I can. Those methods listed on the Drum228.org website - I can assure you the money will go exactly to where it is intended. I have given much of my time and money to the Drum throughout the past couple of years.

And as far as to how much money is made, that's completely up to the buyers of the film and the documentary.

Why put something down that isn't even finished yet? And I think it makes perfect sense to create a documentary on the Drum while you have all the equipment and personnel there anyway. Ralph Villani wants to help perpetuate the memory of his father and his father's boat. The documentary - he wants people to know the story of the Drum, which has been basically untold through any medium even after all this time. You can't find any book or documentary on the Drum, while many exist for other museum submarines. USS Cod, USS Silversides, USS Bowfin, USS Batfish, USS Pampanito, USS Nautilus, they all have books dedicated to them to name a few. The Drum was out there from April of '42 until August of '45, making 13 (and a 14th unofficial) war patrols. It's time for this documentary.

tater 03-03-09 09:30 AM

~16,000 Allied POWs died making the Burma Railway.

Terrible as THAT was, they had it easy. The Asian forced labor used by the Japs on the Burma railway? Around 90,000 died.

Schani 03-03-09 11:04 AM

More Good Movies
 
For a good POW movie; King Rat (1965). 1945 Thailand. James Clavell novel based on Changi prison.

Some other movies not mentioned that I like:

The Bridge at Remagen (1969). 1945 Germany. We might have a distant relative in that one. Jan Schanilec, played Lt. Eckert on the German side. So I might be a bit biased there. I think he should have received an Oscar for best bit part.

A Bridge to Far (1977). 1944 Holland. Kinda a classic. Huge cast.
A Walk in the Sun (1945). 1944 Italy
The Story of G.I. Joe (year?) Italy. Burgess Meridith as Ernie Pyle. Good flick.

Pork Chop Hill (1959). 1953 Korea. I just plain outright love that movie.
The Blue Max (1966). 1917 World War I.

And I some good comedic ones.

Father Goose (1964). 1942 Pacific Coastwatcher.
Mister Roberts (1955). 1945 Pacific backwaters. An all time classic in my books.
Operation Petticoat (1959). 1942 Pacific submarine.
What Did You Do in the War, Daddy? (1966) 1943 Sicily.
Willie and Joe (year?) Italy

A Very Super Market 03-03-09 11:06 AM

Why are you suddenly talking about BoB?

There was no sarcasm in that post, and though I agree that conditions were generally terrible in the POW camps, the one Saito was in second command only squalid.

Schani 03-03-09 04:43 PM

One more
 
And one more comes to mind. Academy award winner, The Fighting Lady. Color; 61 minutes. The best part. It's downloadable off yorktownsailor.com. Downloaded it a couple of weeks ago. It is quite good.

Franklin Van Valkenburg 03-03-09 05:36 PM

I just read through every post and noticed...

... not one person has mentioned The Thin Red Line.

Its an excellent film and is worth watching. It may move just a bit slow and may be a little hard to follow at points, but its not supposed to be like Saving Private Ryan (which opened in theaters the same year and overshadowed this film) or Eastwood's Iwo Jima films (which I must commend for its eye candy and sound mixing... has some neat cinematography too; ie, the Corsair scenes in the cockpit!). The Thin Red Line is, in my opinion, a very realistic and emotionally moving war film... because it really dives into the soldier's mind, captures the horrible conditions of the fight for Guadalcanal, and constantly reminds you that everyone is human... nobody is perfect... and anyone can die at any moment. I tend to feel a closer connection to this film, as if I were there with the characters, than I do with other films... because its all in the little realistic details.


Operation Pacific - A rather Americanized propaganda film but fun to watch! Can't beat The Duke!


Tom Hanks and Steven Speilberg are currently working on another WWII HBO Mini-Series called The Pacific, due to air this year I believe. From what I've read it follows two Marines (the 10-part plot is based on their memoirs), all the way from the hours after the attack on Pearl Harbor to the signing of the Japanese surrender!
http://www.pacificfans.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pacific_(miniseries)

Schani 03-03-09 06:35 PM

The Thin Red Line
 
The Thin Red Line was left out in my opinion is that it was not a very well done movie. I felt that it was not a case of the Americal or 32nd division, as it was more of the 3rd shut-in Battalion of the 1st manic depression regiment of the Psycological division that should have been commanded by Dr. Phil. Way to much interpersonal drama that clouded what could have been one damned good action movie. It is no wonder Woody Harrelson and George Clooney jumped at the chance to snatch a roll in that film to get in another Hollywood liberal jab at how imperfect everyone is. I own the VHS and would have to dust it off to view it again if ever. Pacific should be much better. BTW, wasn't it originally titled `With the Old Breed'. Isn't it based on Eugene Sledge's book? Just wondering.

Schani 03-05-09 09:36 AM

Tomorrow Night
 
`Run Silent, Run Deep' is on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) tomorrow evening at 8:00pm EST. I could watch it; but Fighting Sioux hockey is on a local station. Sioux vs. Badger's.:up:

Sailor Steve 03-05-09 01:33 PM

This is why I own a copy on DVD. Watch it on my PC when nothing else is going on.

Schani 03-06-09 02:09 PM

TCM
 
I guess tonight is submarine night on TCM. `Run Silent, Run Deep' is followed by `Submarine Command', followed by `Ice Station Zebra'. As for me though it's the University of North Dakota Fight Sioux at University of Wisconsin Badger's WCHA hockey.:rock:

I should be able to catch most of `Submarine Command'. I must have seen that movie. But I don't remember.:hmmm:


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