And just how do you propose to achieve that? A door to door search?

Just great - bringing this thread back. It is so long, I doubt I would ever bother to catch up reading on it.

Sounded like the debate has come up anew. Rather than start it over again I believe many folks are on record here.

i think after today the arguement that having more guns controls the guncrimes is now pardon the pun shot a resounding no

You don't know what you're talking about.

micky1up knows what he is talking about from his perspective. Unfortunately it is based on emotion, which clouds his judgement. It is too early to tell what the gunman was all about but my understanding is that on Friday 13 APR, a bomb threat was phoned into VT. From my perspective, if Gov't entities were able to protect me, a much higher state of alert would have been broadcast and this would never have happened because every student would have been on alert and a large police presence would have been afforded.

Unfortunately Gov't cannot and will not protect individuals, not even 35 individuals. You are on your own. In the face of certain death another option (other than Gov't intervention) is always a benefit.

It's a short article Gizzmoe and very much on topic.

This was in Virginia.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

I'd have to say a resounding yes. Obviously the gov can't protect me in time to stop me, or 30 other of my fellow man from being done in by some crazy, so your answer must be based on emotion, not logic.

-S

Most americans tell moral in europe (Amsterdam) is much lower, then why don't we have such shootings overhere?

Nations that have a low homicide rate tend to have a high suicide rate, and vice-versa. When you add the two together, calling it, say, 'intentional death', it tends to even out.

There are some exceptions, obviously, and it isn't a perfect correlation, but interesting nonetheless.

NETHERLANDS male 13.0, female 6.3
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA male 17.6, female 4.1 figures from '99


more recent:
US. 2002 male 17.6 female 4.1
The Netherlands.2003 male 12.7 female 5.9
So, no.



http://www.who.int/mental_health/pre...iciderates/en/

It depends if it's a B&E, or a B&E After Dark.

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Candada is more armed, and has higher unemployment yet fewer gun crimes.

He used a 9mm Pistol and a .22 Caliber Pistol.

Probably since it has 10% the population of the US. I think from a genetic perspective, there is a certain # of genetically whacked people out of a million that would be predisposed for such a crime. Having 10% the population means I expect a 90% less whacko's doing some odd crime like this in Canada. Add in probably less stress in Canada (I think the US has got to be the most stressed out country to live in), and that further reduces trigger mechanisms for whacked people to do this kind of thing. Just some of my theories is all, or should I call them hypothesis?

-S

Regular Breaking & Entering is only a misdemeanor.

But Breaking & Entering After Dark is a felony.

Well... I still have not heard a convincing enough opinion from anyone to make me think about giving up my weapons...

All I keep hearing is "If there were no guns no one would get shot..."

This is so true...

But then I would use a Spear or Sword or Knife, Rocks, Paper, Scissors...My hands... something ....

So... I guess if there were none of the above I could use my teeth...:hmm:

Hey! You ... umm ... Individuals... that wanna ban guns... answer this, IF YOU CAN,

Where does the banning of weapons stop?

Come on ... If your so smart ... Cause everything can be used as a weapon ...

And don't cop out with the ''We just want guns banned" ... That jive went out the window with the baby and the bath water y'all want to throw away ...

SO???

I shall take your non-response to this as you have seen my light and will purchase a weapon for self defense... and you will argue against Gun Control and the ban of guns of any kind on these forums ...

Remember Santa is watching and making a list...:o

yes i see your point do you see mine the campus had a police force the town had a police force all the civilains around had guns and yet this man went on a 2 hr rampage all those guns and still 35 dead guns cant control gun crime if it could how come this happens with alarming regularity in your country schools workplaces nowhere is safe no matter how many guns

yes but its hard for a nut to kill 35 peope with a knife where as its easy for a nut to load up as much ammo he can and kill 35 people

crap we are talking percentages here dusent matter how many people you have ythat point has been proven the have a lesser percentage mind you there culture isnt as violent as the US so theres another factor