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DJSatane 03-08-07 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesDeFontana
http://ati.de/products/radeonx1k/imagequality.html
Seems like Ati X1000 series support HDR and FSAA at the same time

More of a reason why there should be no excuse for SH4 not to support FSAA when someone has card from that series. I have x1950 xt and I truly hope fsaa will work on sh4. Too bad they didnt mention what card they used for that preview on IGN site.

The Renegade 03-08-07 09:35 PM

So I've just realized something and I have a question. I know it's not yet confirmed if there is AA available in game or if it can be forced, but if it is present or can be forced, would a Radeon X800 XL be able to run with HDR and AA at the same time? I ask this because I know that the X1000 series can run it, and that it is a big advantage for ATI and I always hear about it. But my X800 XL isn't in the X1000 series, and yet, I can play HL2: Episode 1 with both HDR and AA! So do ATI cards that aren't in the X1000 series support both HDR and AA simultaneously?

This is probably just some paranoid, anxious thought I just had, but hey, it would be awesome to have HDR and AA at the same time instead of sacrificing one for the other.

Ark 03-08-07 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDeFontana
http://ati.de/products/radeonx1k/imagequality.html
Seems like Ati X1000 series support HDR and FSAA at the same time


Apparently, so can the 8800 series from Nvidia.

However, if the engine won't support it, new drivers more than likely won't change that. *GRAW* lol

JamesDeFontana 03-09-07 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ark
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesDeFontana
http://ati.de/products/radeonx1k/imagequality.html
Seems like Ati X1000 series support HDR and FSAA at the same time


Apparently, so can the 8800 series from Nvidia.

However, if the engine won't support it, new drivers more than likely won't change that. *GRAW* lol

You`re very right Ark, forgot about the nVidia 8800 and if the game engine will suport FSAA + HDR or not we will find out in a few days:up:
All the best

Nightmare 03-09-07 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Renegade
So I've just realized something and I have a question. I know it's not yet confirmed if there is AA available in game or if it can be forced, but if it is present or can be forced, would a Radeon X800 XL be able to run with HDR and AA at the same time? I ask this because I know that the X1000 series can run it, and that it is a big advantage for ATI and I always hear about it. But my X800 XL isn't in the X1000 series, and yet, I can play HL2: Episode 1 with both HDR and AA! So do ATI cards that aren't in the X1000 series support both HDR and AA simultaneously?

This is probably just some paranoid, anxious thought I just had, but hey, it would be awesome to have HDR and AA at the same time instead of sacrificing one for the other.

I wouldn't count on it. I had an X800XT that would do both HDR and AA at the same time for HL2. However it would not do both in Oblivion. If AA is even available in SH4 (it's entirely up in the air from what I've read, and the developers haven't squashed any of the rumors), the only real safe bet would be either a X1000 series or Nvidia's 8800 series.

The Renegade 03-11-07 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare
I wouldn't count on it. I had an X800XT that would do both HDR and AA at the same time for HL2. However it would not do both in Oblivion. If AA is even available in SH4 (it's entirely up in the air from what I've read, and the developers haven't squashed any of the rumors), the only real safe bet would be either a X1000 series or Nvidia's 8800 series.

Thanks for that info, even if it is upsetting. It just means that a video card upgrade is definitely in order. Now I just gotta pick one from all the different offerings out there....

That aside, I hope AA is available in SH4. It really is nice to have.

DJSatane 03-11-07 03:14 PM

I cant wait for a review because it seems noone from UBI or dev wants to talk about this issue(after i asked whether aa will work in sh4 on ubi ask the developers thread - they locked it and ended the questions). I truly hope aa can be used on sh4.

Paajtor 03-11-07 03:55 PM

Theky locked it and ended the questions?
What an unhealthy way to handle future-customers!:down:

Still I hope it's possible, to force through driver-settings, just like SH3 and Red Orchestra.
In fact, I run both games at the exact same settings.

Ark 03-11-07 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paajtor
Theky locked it and ended the questions?
What an unhealthy way to handle future-customers!:down:

Still I hope it's possible, to force through driver-settings, just like SH3 and Red Orchestra.
In fact, I run both games at the exact same settings.

SH3 does't have the same graphics features as SHIV. Turn on bloom in SH3 (Shift + PgUp) and all of your forced FSAA will disappear.

OneTinSoldier 03-11-07 09:55 PM

All you can do is pray
 
Ok. I posted this in another thread, but it was really meant for this one...


I will now take this time to kneel before our god, Neal Neptune Stevens, who's spirit is always with us just below our keel...

Oh father who art below us, please do not let Ubi deliver unto us a Kracken from the depths. Give us this day our daily FSAA, through SHIV our Sim, Amen.

shell 03-18-07 01:09 PM

So with the latest reviews from some users it seems like that SH4 is definitely without AA. Now its obvious why no one from the officials wanted to answer this question.

Sulikate 03-18-07 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shell
So with the latest reviews from some users it seems like that SH4 is definitely without AA. Now its obvious why no one from the officials wanted to answer this question.

I agree :-?

Ark 03-18-07 01:49 PM

I'm done with the FSAA debate.....
 
Hey all,

My apoligies for harping about FSAA in so many of your threads. It was not my intention to clutter up your threads with FSAA speculaiton/arguing. I am done doing that, so I hope those of you who have threads that have turned into FSAA discussions accept my apology.

Since it is apparent that FSAA is not in-game, I think it is best that we move on from the issue. Us talking about it certainly is not going to change it this late in the game. We can either choose to accept it, or not buy SHIV. I love subsims, so I am going to be getting the product anyways and give it a chance.

Many of us are disappointed in this aspect of the product, but SHIV is still SHIV. Whether we "need" FSAA or not, we are all here for the same reasons; our mutual excitement for SHIV and subsims in general. It is my opinion that we focus on these two aspects rather than our distaste for a singular design decision. If you want to voice your discontent for the lack of FSAA, then email the development team. We are not going to get anywhere just talking about it here. All we end up doing is messing up everybody elses threads and ultimately cluttering up the forum making it harder for new member to find/provide information. Subsim.com has always been the one bastion of information I can go to without having to fight my way through US bashing, political arguments, and other nonsense. Let's do our best to protect the sanctity of this place and not turn it into "yet another videogame forum". :up:

xboxer 03-18-07 01:51 PM

SH3 worked fine without AA. SH4 will be great as well.

AA has never been my concern in any game I play.

rls669 03-18-07 02:06 PM

Once you get used to AA, games without it are absolutely painful to look at. Especially games where you've got lots of thin lines, like gun barrels, cables, railings . . .

bishop 03-18-07 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rls669
Once you get used to AA, games without it are absolutely painful to look at. Especially games where you've got lots of thin lines, like gun barrels, cables, railings . . .

Doesn't pain me at all, I bounce between new (AA) and old (low rez) games all the time, a little jagged edges make no difference to me. Right now I'm in the middle of a Fleet Defender WWIII campaign (320x200, staircase level jaggies). I could care less, the game is a blast.

Onkel Neal 03-18-07 02:30 PM

Yes, SH4 does have AA. Why, I shot down a Kate and two Zeros before breakfast. :ping:

geetrue 03-18-07 02:35 PM

There you have it ... right from the horses mouth, uh sorry Neal :lol:

I mean the bosses mouth ... :up:

Drebbel 03-18-07 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
Yes, SH4 does have AA. Why, I shot down a Kate and two Zeros before breakfast. :ping:

:rotfl:

moosenoodles 03-18-07 03:18 PM

thats just priceless :rotfl:


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