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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2490255)

Who knows if we can replace the SHIII terrain with the one of SH5? Apparently the two games share the same terrain format, but even if it worked, probably all the harbors and terrain objects would be messed up :hmmm:

The best solution would be that you create the 3D model of the islands. :haha:

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490259)

The best solution would be that you create the 3D model of the islands. :haha:

Kendras, why not starting right away? :03:

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Originally Posted by the_frog (Post 2490311)

Kendras, why not starting right away? :03:

Are you offering your help to create Helgoland islands 3D model ? :D

I'm not competent at all in 3D modeling and texturing. The only things I can do for this mod are :

- give ideas
- make researches
- make in-game tests
- add the lighthouses locations
- create harbours

Interesting tutorial :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vyNbalvXR4

Edit : Unfortunately, Helgoland is not represented on height maps of terrain.party.

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490259)

The best solution would be that you create the 3D model of the islands. :haha:

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Originally Posted by the_frog (Post 2490311)

Kendras, why not starting right away? :03:

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490329)

Are you offering your help to create Helgoland islands 3D model ? :D

Kendras, I am afraid making islands bigger than a rocky islet into 3D objects, is not the most efficient way to bring them in game.
Talking about Helgoland and Düne, what for sure can be done is creating a basic terrain representation of them (with the known limitations) and adding to them custom harbor models with fairly realistic docks, breakwaters, buildings etc. The historical pictures you have collected so far will be a valid help, and who cares if the final result wont be 100% identical to the real thing?
After all, the whole SH world is a simplified/distorted representation of the globe, but we still enjoy exploring it!

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490344)

Interesting tutorial :

Edit : Unfortunately, Helgoland is not represented on height maps of terrain.party.

I dont have Unity, but the heightmap interpolation can be done with similar results in Blender.
The website is cool, but at the moment only Americas and the westernmost portion of Europe is available. Even so, I tried exporting height dat for the Île de Sein, but all I got is a dark grey map. There are various other websites that heightmaps of the globe can be downloaded from, but unfortunately getting height information at such a small scale is pretty hard. :doh:

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Originally Posted by gap (Post 2490367)

I dont have Unity

Pretty impressive ! Watch this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMnOZZalzWc

Gap, in order I create harbours at the proper scale, could you create a small "tool" for me ? It would be a simple 3D object (a box) which allows me to measure distances in S3D. So I would like it to be 1 meter high, 10 meters large, and 500 meters long.

* on the 500 meters side, you add marks each 50 meters. The first 50 meters are also divided with small marks each 10 meters. The first 10 meters space is itself divided each 1 meter.

* the 10 meters side is marked each 1 meter. At 5 meters, the mark is longer.

1. A little comparison with the actual Helgoland in SH3.

http://i.imgur.com/8SKBGZ3.png

2. Even that simple model would be better :

https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/...land_total.png

I think Helgoland is not the priority for now. I may try to add your models on the existing terrain. But the LH and light signal placed on Düne must be placed on a land model (covered with sand), because if I place them at the right place, they will be in the water (see my previous post).

Let's concentrate on the french LH. Perhaps the LH of "La Vieille" could be tested in game very soon ? :hmm2:

GWX and all big Mods include a map version (I think created by Tigerkatzitatzi) that gives an "improved" representation of Helgoland + Döne. It is not prefect but better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490417)

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490373)

Pretty impressive ! Watch this

I agree :yep:

Unfortunately Unity is available for free, but not World Creator

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490376)

Gap, in order I create harbours at the proper scale, could you create a small "tool" for me ?

I am now finishing the "Petite Vieille" (working on textures as we speak). This is the first lighth I will send to you. Is the measuring tool needed urgently? :O:

I remind you that you can measure the distance between two vertices by simply selecting them. Wings' top bar will display automatically their absolute distance, followed by the distance along the three axes. 1 unit of length = 10 m. This is the most accurate measuring method and the most practical, unless you want to measure distances directly in game. :)

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490379)

1. A little comparison with the actual Helgoland in SH3.

http://i.imgur.com/8SKBGZ3.png

I don't understand... :doh:
Can you please show your and SHIII's version of the Island side by side?

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490379)

2. Even that simple model would be better

Nice! What game is that? For a moment, before could I read your message, I thought it was SHIII LOL :doh::O:

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Originally Posted by Kendras (Post 2490417)

We will see. As I said a few days back, the front light can be either on land or in the water. Should the concrete base be too short, we can try and raise the sea bed, or alternatively I can create a sand dune model to be attached below the base. As for the back light, it would be better if it was on land. I am confident that GWX/WAC got Dune and Helgoland in their right position. If not, I believe that shifting them by 200 or 400 meters shouldn't be too complicated.

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Originally Posted by the_frog (Post 2490426)

GWX and all big Mods include a map version (I think created by Tigerkatzitatzi) that gives an "improved" representation of Helgoland + Döne. It is not prefect but better than nothing.

:up:

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