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AG124 02-04-06 05:38 PM
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However, if the Bush administration has established one thing, it is that they will do as they see fit without regard of popular opinion.
For better or for worse, this is true too. I don't particularly like Bush, but I am not anti-American - I hope to see the war in Iraq end in favour of the West and believe that this outcome is still possible. :yep:

Happy Times 02-04-06 05:39 PM
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Yes this is absolutely true - although there is also a growing segment of the US population which is not satisfied with the war. This appears to be because of a lack of visible progress (and because of the US Army's casualties) and not because of a distaste for war against Muslim extremists. A total war with a good bombing campaign (with less US casualties due to less ground fighting) should improve poll levels in the US. :yep: At least that's what I think.
I would say that a majority of the Americans are not pleased with the progress of the war. However, if the Bush administration has established one thing, it is that they will do as they see fit without regard of popular opinion. That being said, another attack would instantly resurface the call for protracted war and give the administration cause to say 'see, I told you so' to their critics. If those two things happen, and Europe joins the US's campaign, I would rather be fodder for hungry tigers than an Islamic extreemist.
Hate to say but i hope this happens, so that one winner emerges. And im personally ready to fight this war, and so should everybody fit for service.

Onkel Neal 02-04-06 07:17 PM
http://www.slate.com/id/2135499/
Cartoon Debate
The case for mocking religion.

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Islam makes very large claims for itself. In its art there is a prejudice against representing the human form at all. The prohibition on picturing the prophet—who was only another male mammal—is apparently absolute. So is the prohibition on pork or alcohol or, in some Muslim societies, music or dancing. Very well then, let a good Muslim abstain rigorously from all these. But if he claims the right to make me abstain as well, he offers the clearest possible proof of an aggressive intent. This current coexistence is only an interlude, he seems to say. For the moment, all I can do is claim to possess absolute truth and demand absolute immunity from criticism. But in the future, you will do what I say and you will do it on pain of death.

Torplexed 02-04-06 07:30 PM
I'm sorry but people that easy to offend are just too easy to pass up. I say we turn it up a notch and see how far we can push them before all their heads explode.

Hey, maybe we can set up a posthumous Robert Mapplethorpe photography exhibit at the Guggenheim of mason jars half full of urine with a Quor'an peacefully soaking in each one. Then, we can send seruptitiously taken footage to al Jazeera and wait for the fireworks.

WooHoo! Who needs cow-tipping?!?! :D

Skybird 02-04-06 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens
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But if he claims the right to make me abstain as well, he offers the clearest possible proof of an aggressive intent. This current coexistence is only an interlude, he seems to say. For the moment, all I can do is claim to possess absolute truth and demand absolute immunity from criticism. But in the future, you will do what I say and you will do it on pain of death.
Haha, I am preaching this since weeks and months now...

Wim Libaers 02-05-06 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Happy Times
WARNING: HIGHLY OFFENSIVE MATERIAL http://www.retecool.com/comments.php?id=13539_0_1_0_C
:rotfl: Fantastic!

You know, those original Danish cartoons ware way too restricted, and timid. These, on the other hand, include some absolutely outrageous ones.

Personal favourite: the one with the pack of cigarettes labeled "Mohammed causes serious harm to you and those around you"
So funny :lol:

Letum 02-05-06 07:57 PM
http://www.sayagain.co.uk/b3tapix/im...slimsurvey.jpg

Marhkimov 02-05-06 08:01 PM
I applaud Letum's message. Excellent. :yep:



@ Radical extremist groups:

GROW UP! :stare:

Torplexed 02-05-06 08:20 PM
Works for me too. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Iceman 02-05-06 11:24 PM
Few weeks back I was "Seemingly" put down because of a comment of "My" perception of Islam being likend to a Rabid Dog...hum....Only one way to put down a rabid dog too I'm afraid.

Now I know many of you seem to think I take the aggressive and particularily cold stance and it is Not my stance actually at all... I am just calling it like I see it and know where the fleshly world mind will take this.

The truly Ironic thing to me is the world being ruined by the God of Kaos and his goal to conquer and subdue yet lacking the ability to control from within...being the nature of evil itself...is kaos..hence a divided world.

It almost...almost makes me able to laugh outloud at the devil at his lack of coordination if it wasn't for the casulites I know he inflicts on the innocent...the poor...the fatherless...but alas his time is short and the days of all mens lives are numbered.

CCIP 02-05-06 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman
The truly Ironic thing to me is the world being ruined by the God of Kaos and his goal to conquer and subdue yet lacking the ability to control from within...being the nature of evil itself...is kaos..hence a divided world.

It almost...almost makes me able to laugh outloud at the devil at his lack of coordination if it wasn't for the casulites I know he inflicts on the innocent...the poor...the fatherless...but alas his time is short and the days of all mens lives are numbered.
The truly ironic thing is that this sounds exactly like what the Muslims are telling us :shifty:

Letum 02-06-06 12:28 AM
No! the TRUELY ironic thing is that if images of the prophet are banned how do they know the cartoons are images of the prophet? :-j

Iceman 02-06-06 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Letum
No! the TRUELY ironic thing is that if images of the prophet are banned how do they know the cartoons are images of the prophet? :-j
Now Dats Ironic! LOL...

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Originally Posted by CCIP
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Originally Posted by Iceman
The truly Ironic thing to me is the world being ruined by the God of Kaos and his goal to conquer and subdue yet lacking the ability to control from within...being the nature of evil itself...is kaos..hence a divided world.

It almost...almost makes me able to laugh outloud at the devil at his lack of coordination if it wasn't for the casulites I know he inflicts on the innocent...the poor...the fatherless...but alas his time is short and the days of all mens lives are numbered.
The truly ironic thing is that this sounds exactly like what the Muslims are telling us :shifty:
Yea...not quite.

Ducimus 02-06-06 09:23 PM
I just want to say that this world wide muslim protest, which has turned violent in many places, over a CARTOON, is not going to do wonders for their image. From everything ive seen in the media, there seems to be less and less that distinguishs them from the whackjobs we see on TV from Al Queda.

JSLTIGER 02-06-06 10:25 PM
You know, I wonder if half of them even know what they are rioting about, or if they're just rioting for the hell of it at this point.


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