A lot of people just plain took off and said, "there is nothing left to come back for" Over 8,000 homes burned to the ground X two each = 16,000 persons with only 1,600 living in shelters and a thousand or more living at a local Walmart (who has said be out by today or else), but 90% of the people living at the walmart in tents are transit people cashing in on the free food and clothes. Strange, uh? Now we have to deal with the thousands massing on the US border too :o

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...ing/ar-BBPPsbG

A TOLERABLY HAPPY THANKSGIVING
 

http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/2277 THE THUNDERSTORM OVER MY HOUSE LAST NIGHT AT 2AM, AFTER A DAYLONG OF STEADY RAIN AND POWER FAILURES WAS SPECTACULAR AND LOUD! THE LIGHTNING WAS BLINDING AND THE THUNDER DEAFENING! UPSIDE: THE SKYS ARE CLEAR ....FINALLY BREATHING WITHOUT A MASK AND THE TURKEY IS ON THE TABLE.:ping::ping::ping:

A welcome relief indeed. AQI right now in San Rafael is 28 and it was something like 5 when I got up. Airing out the house today. :up:

Glad to hear that guys. Happy Thanksgiving. :salute:

These numbers are very disturbing :yep:

Now comes the mud slides ... you know what else I heard that FEMA has 80 trailers ready to provide (for 30k people?)

Over a hundred dead people later
 

A Federal judge in San Francisco has ordered PG &E to inspect all of its entire electrical service area to trim any trees and replace any transmission equipment that could cause wildfires. This actually stems from a probation hearing of the company's involvement( violation of Federal pipeline regulations and obstruction of justice)in the awful 2010 San Bruno natural gas station pipeline explosion which destroyed an entire neighborhood and killed several residents.."to protect the public from further wrongs by the offender and reduce to zero the number of wildfires caused by PG&E in the 2019 wildfires season." The judge noted that Cal Fire has determined that PG&E caused 18 wildfires in 2017. The Camp Fire, with 86 dead, is still under investigation.:k_confused:

On a bad news note, it is being reported this morning that Trump is considering seizing all disaster relief funds already allocated to California for recovery from the latest deadly wildfires to use to build his border wall; included in the seizure also are funds allocated for hurricane relief for Puerto Rico and Texas, with the total estimated for all the proposed seizures of upwards of USD $11 Billion...









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Trump probably won't do it ... don't blame him for thinking about it


One bad fire indeed that killed 86 people

https://media.abc10.com/assets/KXTV/...6_1140x641.jpg


https://www.facebook.com/ParadisePos...0374614315276/

Your faith in Trump "probably" not doing something insane is amusing...

..and who else should be blamed for thinking about it who has the power to actually do it? There is mounting anger here in CA over the inept handling of disaster relief by the current administration. It seems an unnecessary burden to add to those already dealing with tragedy...








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1500 WILDFIRES LATER THE 'GEISHA GIRL' QUITS
 

Outrageous!
 

TIME TO RETHINK OUR THINK??!!
 

I JUST WATCHED THIS ON NOVA AND AFTER THE 2017 FIRE ON THREE SIDES OF MY HOUSE FOR TWO WEEKS WITHIN 8000 FEET, IT ALTERS MY CONCEPTUAL THINKING: https://www.thirteen.org/programs/nova/inside-the-megafire-uzvhug/ BOTTOM LINE: SMOKEY THE BEAR WAS WRONG; FIRE KEEPS THE FOREST HEALTHY; STOPPING A FIRE SIMPLY BUILDS UP THE FUEL FOR AN INEVITABLE MEGAFIRE-MADE WORSE BY GLOBAL WARMING....LET IT BURN AND DON'T LIVE IN THE REMOTE WOODS!

I haven't watched your link but the fires aren't limiting themselves to the remote woods. Look at Middletown and Santa Rosa. Those areas were not remote but they still burned badly by just being near the remote woods. What about the Berkeley hills some years ago? My house is next the the freeway in San Rafael but it would still be consumed if a big fire started nearby. It's worrying to say the least and we are in for a fall after a big wet winter. The problem is how do you control those natural burn offs? Sure you don't need fishing gear?