Pro tip. Depending on ambient temperature and amount of clothing insulation, cans of ravioli can be thawed by placing them in the crotch or under the arm for an hour or two. :salute:

These were #10 (industrial sized) cans of ravioli for a crew of 85.
Your arm pits may be bigger than mine. :hmmm:

150ft and no but that is a fine idea. The pump is 220V but it doesn't run that much and might just be able to run on on a solar battery system if the tank is big enough.

150 ft would be a good fit for solar, but you can probably get by with a propane generator too.

I have a lifestraw for outback travel , prepping etc .
https://www.lifestraw.com/

Well thanks, I will look into it.

Holy hell, who's buying up all the ammo?!:o

https://www.midwayusa.com/556x45mm-nato/br?cid=21887

No kidding. :o

I haven't read every post in this thread, I therefore used our search function and added those 3 words. Those words have been mentioned in other threads, but not here in this thread.

What I'm talking about and is of same importance like fresh water and electricity

1. Personal Hygiene
2. Sanitation
3. Discipline

Some of you could have used other words than those I have mentioned.

Markus

AT this stage in prepping, you should be planting you garden and getting your fishing tackle ready. In the really small but possible chance that the current economic disruption caused by this pandemic turns into a large, lasting economic disruption (followed by collapse), you want to have fresh produce ready at hand in 2 ~3 months to augment your pantry supplies.

Fresh eggs are no problem as long as the gals stay happy.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/att...0&d=1584642751

Oranges, figs, plums, and grapefruit are 1~2 weeks away from being picked.

Likewise, you can give your firearms a quick check. Hunting and deterring roving bands of starving city dwellers.

Milk, bread and cheese would be in short supply.

Do you really think it will get that bad?
That we would have to resort to fishing and hunting for our daily needs?

You live in a blessed area with fish and game and trees, but what about the people that live in the big cities, in the tall buildings?

By May they will be out of hope for paying the rent, paying the utilities, keeping the cell phone on, finding food, using what ever they can for TP (it's no joke).

PS May 1st is only 40 days away :o

California preparing for worst case scenarios

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/ca...7wR0ZCaR543XaI

Preppers, people wanting to defend their home, Angst that no ammo will be available in the next time..
At worst groups who think their time has come - from looters to queers thinking of an overthrow :hmmm:

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/03/19/...irus-outbreak/

“When everything around you is uncertain, having a supply of ammunition can make our customers feel safer.”

^^ The motto would be
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best

Markus

I don't think it will get that bad, it never has. Even during the Great Depression and Civil War, we had law and order, for the most part. But nothing is impossible. People who think it cannot happen are the ones roaming the empty store aisles today. The prepping rules simply call for the next step, which is setting up sources of food independent of stores. I hope it doesn't come to that, it's a lot of work!

People in the cities ... well, that's long been a staple of prepper lore. It's gonna be messy! If you want to see what it could be like, check out The Modern Survival Manual: Surviving the Economic Collapse . This happened in Argentina and it is happening today in Venezuela. It's not likely but it could happen here.

The vast majority of people in this country cannot survive without the underlying infrastructure, and they are not very rational about necessities and luxuries. People think they should have whatever they decide they want.

Here's a pair of hypotheticals: Joe works at an art supply store. He makes a little more than min wage, let's say $14 an hour. He has a gal who live with him, and two kids. The kids get free breakfast and lunch at school. Even though his company has insurance available Joe doesn't elect to have coverage, he saves $380 a month. They get state care for the kids and they head to the emergency room if someone gets sick. The birth of both his kids were covered under a state low income program. Joe has an Infiniti car (not new), high-end sport motorcycle, an X-Box and a ton of Steam games in his library. Everyone in his family has a cell phone, his kids have a Nitendo Wii. His gal doesn't work, she is on FB all day while the kids are in school. Joe has next to nothing set aside for emergencies.

Dave has a job as a longshoreman at the ship channel. He makes $30+ and hour and gets quite a bit of OT. Dave has a $50,000 truck, a motorcycle, some kind of high end table saw/router that he claims cost $10,000. Dave has a LOT of tools and toys. Dave has paid his rent on time only twice in the last year. Even when his landlord set up an account in Dave's bank so the rent could be paid automatically by transfer, Dave does not allow the money to transfer. Dave has next to nothing set aside for emergencies.

So, the names were changed but I was the co-worker and the landlord in these scenarios, and I am not embellishing them one bit. The question is: should people be responsible for their own existence, should they have an emergency fund before they buy luxuries and toys?



Good answers.

Any way, I guess the overlying concern is that massive numbers of people are questioning the stability of our society.... This is kind of like when a natural disaster is about to unfold, all the birds and animals can sense it. Worrying.