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Dowly 12-20-12 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1979946)
On the mental healthcare deal....by and large I think pills are prescribed(in the US) a bit to freely and those that do take the pills to keep them "level" my not be keeping a regular schedule in taking the pill or possibly can not afford the pills in the first place.
Yeah, I've seen that mentioned about US. But, I dont live there so I obviously,
cant say how it really is.

Dowly 12-20-12 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 1979951)
Think this was what I was remembering:
http://americablog.com/wp-content/up...eenshot-50.png

Pretty sure all those can be verified, but like I said, I haven't done so.

AVGWarhawk 12-20-12 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1979953)
Yeah, I've seen that mentioned about US. But, I dont live there so I obviously,
cant say how it really is.
The pill pushing for issues is usually the first answer to the question. Some kids it does help. Part of the problem is parents keeping up with the pills. Perhaps the pills are not affordable. On the surface, this is what I see. I have not really gone into in any detail. However, having two kids in school conversations come up concerning certain students, etc.

Takeda Shingen 12-20-12 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 1979947)
That all sounds a lot like Skybirds take on Freedom from Religion. What other Constitutional rights would you deny people when in proximity to your children? Freedom of speech, right to trial by jury? What?
Where common sense can be employed. You cannot bring firearms on an airplane. You cannot bring firearms into a legislative building. You cannot bring firearms into a school.

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Now if only criminals followed the rules eh?
That is a false argument. Criminals do not follow laws, so citizens are not obligated to adhere to them either.

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First off where does it say I don't? Secondly the BoR says citizens have the right to Keep and BEAR arms. Now where does it say "...except for places where anyone might object"?
See first argument. Common sense rules apply.

Dowly 12-20-12 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1979958)
The pill pushing for issues is usually the first answer to the question. Some kids it does help. Part of the problem is parents keeping up with the pills. Perhaps the pills are not affordable. On the surface, this is what I see. I have not really gone into in any detail. However, having two kids in school conversations come up concerning certain students, etc.
My brother used to eat anti-deps, and he said it helped, but in the long run, he
wasnt comfortable with the idea and how the pills made him feel. Now, he is doing
OK without pills, he got to talk to someone other than his family, someone "neutral", seemed to help.

AVGWarhawk 12-20-12 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1979964)
My brother used to eat anti-deps, and he said it helped, but in the long run, he
wasnt comfortable with the idea and how the pills made him feel. Now, he is doing
OK without pills, he got to talk to someone other than his family, someone "neutral", seemed to help.
Sometimes a counselor is the best route to take. Offers a non-judgemental ear.

Rilder 12-20-12 03:18 PM
Teachers allowed guns? I wouldn't even let my future kids step foot on a gun owner's property, let alone a school where the teachers have guns.

Dowly 12-20-12 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1979968)
Sometimes a counselor is the best route to take. Offers a non-judgemental ear.
Precisely. If I have something that's on my mind, I dont usually call my mom or dad about it, I talk it out with my friends. Somehow just easier to talk to them. :hmmm:

Task Force 12-20-12 03:31 PM
Teachers... with guns... :o

"Imagines his old java programming ex marine Vietnam vet teacher with a rifle teaching class."

Well, It would have made Java interesting.

Nippelspanner 12-20-12 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1979944)
Yep. Alarming amount of these mass shootings happen in the US, I remember
seeing a map that listed all the mass shootings from the past 50 years or something like
that and large majority of them had happened in the US. :dead:
(I have no idea if said map was just propaganda or fact, though)

Like it's been mentioned number of times, mental health care would imho be the way to go.
Of course, it wont completely eliminate the problem, but *maybe* it would
help at least in some cases. :hmmm:
I googled and found this:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycan...ap-545x437.png

From this page

AVGWarhawk 12-20-12 03:40 PM
School would be something like this perhaps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5k6toS7i8

Dowly 12-20-12 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1979991)
School would be something like this perhaps?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj5k6toS7i8
"Hilarious scene from the comedy "Back To School" (1986)"

I dont get it. :hmm2:

AVGWarhawk 12-20-12 03:47 PM
Just a teacher on the edge...does he need a gun?

August 12-20-12 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1979960)
Where common sense can be employed. You cannot bring firearms on an airplane.
Sure you can. Bunch of friends of mine did that just a couple months ago.

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You cannot bring firearms into a legislative building.
Sure you can. Texas even lets concealed carry license holders to go around metal detectors.

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You cannot bring firearms into a school.
True according to many state laws but that only affects those who don't have murder on their mind. A better way to say it is only potential victims cannot bring firearms into a school.

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That is a false argument. Criminals do not follow laws, so citizens are not obligated to adhere to them either.
Not its not. Citizens are obligated to follow the law or they become criminals. That's like saying Criminals murder so citizens can too.

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See first argument. Common sense rules apply.
Common sense to me is the Newtown Principal and those kids might be alive today if even just one teacher or administrator was allowed to exercise their constitutional rights to use a firearm for self defense. Gun Free Zones, and attitudes like yours, created the situation that allowed those people to be killed.

eddie 12-20-12 04:01 PM
"Gun Free Zones, and attitudes like yours, created the situation that allowed those people to be killed. "

What over blown horse hockey!:haha:


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