Careful, you can easily get crucified for saying that in this forum - telling you by experience. I sometimes marked the difference between Christianity defined on the basis of Jesus' teachings, and "churchism", as I sometimes call it, as Christianity defined by the church's rule, and took heavy flak for that. To me, Jesus was a reasonably reasonable person who spoke common sense - all the magic and wizardry tales I save myself from, of course. As the reasonably reasonable man that he possibly was, Jesus suffered the fate of many reasonably reasonable people before and after him - he managed to upset people so much that finally he got himself killed from their hands.. Which maybe is a sign that he may have been reasonable, but maybe not clever. The church, on the other hand, imo is nothing else but an ursupator of power and influence, starting with Paul. It is a manifestation of what we call "organised crime". A mob. A mafia. Churches are mausoleums of that crime, turning the ongoing crime into a monument.

What brothels are to a real honourful nobleman, temples are to the truly spiritual human mind. You avoid them.

Thanks. I shall keep that in mind.:up:

I wouldn't worry about it Bud. Skybird only thinks that way because he can't post anything related to religion without coming off as condescending and dismissive of peoples personal beliefs.

Keep in mind that the main flak he gets is for is his fundamentalist style zealotry and simply making up "facts" and continuing to insist they are true long after they have shown to be false.

Thank you gentlemen. I shall also take this into consideration.

Must start writing stuff down.........:D

Try this one for demographics, it makes as much sense as Skys "scholarly" link on the muslim tide in the west:03:
Muslims are going to be extinct.
Each muslim has two parents 4 grandparents and 8 greatgrandparents.
those 14 people are needed to create a single 4th generational muslim who makes the magical tranformation to Skys ultimateshariafundamentalistjihadi(with new improved flavour).
With proven falling birth rates each generation they live in the west this existing 14-1 birthrate can only increase its own inevitable downward spiral condemning the muslims in the west to the fate of the dodo.

Since its a blasphemy thread I would like to attribute the maths on population to the lad himself the modest 13th disciple who didn't want his name in the book.

So did {Adeina ah did ah nutjob} stand up in front of the other dictaitors in the UN and call for the destruction of the jewish state while calling for a ban no blasphemy..?????:doh::doh::doh::doh: