Woah. What's he terrorizing, a book? Maybe he's an idiot. Maybe he's a publicity whore. Maybe he's even a cult leader, but he's not a terrorist. He and his 50 followers are about as representative of western society and Christianity as tumbleweed is to the flora of the world. Let them have their little tantrum.

When you KNOW that what you will doing will cause people to die and will only not do it if your demands are met that makes that pastor a terrorist. He is attempting to terrorize the US with the threat of action that will directly lead to violence.

That is terrorism pure and simple.

If would be different if his book burning was hush hush among members of his group but he has plastered it all over and tied his choice of if or not the community center moves.

It is exactly the same if someone claimed they would cause an action that would lead to violence if we refused to stop supporting Israel. That would make the person doing the action a terrorist. Causing a riot that will injure kill innocent civilians and military is a terrorist act.

That doesn't wash at all. Terrorism is the use of, well, terror to illicit a response. This means that the burning of the Quran must instill a certain degree of fear of personal harm to be effective. By your very loose definition of 'terror', burning the American flag could be construed as terrorism. So could a protest march or a public rally. That's too slippery a slope for my tastes.

And so it is that it comes down to taste. You find the act distasteful. So do I. However, if the First Amendment is to be anything more than a piece of paper, it must protect his right of expression as much as it would mine, so long as he is not placing anyone in direct physical jeopardy, which he isn't. If he doesn't have a permit, then he gets fined or spends a night in jail. That's the law, but it doesn't make him a terrorist.

Oh, and our enemies are going to try and kill our troops again on Sunday, whether Qurans are burnt or not.

It was the Iman Rauf who said if the situation wasn't handled carefully violence could erupt. Is that also terrorism? It could be seen as a non-too vieled threat.

Please don't equate the burning of a book or flag as the same as taking life. They are not equivilant.

When an American flag is burned we are hurt but to these people burning the Koran and being powerless to stop it is like burning someone as important as a first born.

Also when they burn US flags it is in pure uncontrollable anger. Now cold calculated chaos.

And I said Riot not protest. There is zero slippery slope here and the pastor only became a terrorist when he made a demand or carry out his action. Therefore he is threatening doing an action that puts more than a few people in serious danger to illicit a response or fear.

1st Amendment rights mainly pertain to words print or nonviolent actions in protest of the government. When it pertains to religious freedom it means the government cant bang down the door because they pray to a different god but the gov can bang down the door if they are housing weapons or doing crimes in the name of their god.

He like many sane Americans fear for our armed forces that will have to deal with the riots that would result from this terrorists actions.

Again if you started a riot but did nothing to participate in it. You are still charged with starting a riot.

Book burning, flag burning, picture burning or burning in effigy are not examples of violence. So, there is no crime being done in the name of God here. Stupidity, yes, but no crime. And in the United States stupidity isn't illegal.

Then they should moderate their behavior and their 'first born' won't be harmed.

Not that I want to interrupt your conversation,
 

This Thread was that the U.S. side in Afghanistan was worry for the soldiers and security and not the book,even if he is an idiot who is both less smart,so is not caught a real threat for the public,

So Muslim anger is akin to animals raging at the drop of a dime but American anger is calculated?

And/or are you suggesting that Muslims are incapable of controller their anger whereas the rest of us are?

Crowd Mentality. Work themselves up into a fevor and then if someone brings a flag it is burned to let off steam. I much rather them burn a flag than attack armed forces.

So by not doing the Koran burn the US is more safe? Please. How naive can anyone be?

...and this is lunacy, pure and simple.

It is idiotic to suggest that knowing a string of cause and effect relationships means that the effect defines the cause. By your definition everytime the LA Lakers win the NBA Championship they become terrorists, and that's absurd.

What you are suggesting is letting what other people's reaction to the free exercise of our rights become a limiting factor upon those rights. Would we also be terrorists if Muslims decided that our continuation of the 1st Amendment was an afront to Islam and therefore rioted?

You are clearly suggesting that the behavior of a free society be dictated outside said society by people who don't prescribe to our same value system. Silly.

Considering the amount of Bigotry (I cant even read the idiot topics yall go into about Islam) that goes on this forum I am not surprised by your responses comparing responses by different groups.

What I do find surprising is this idiocy that doing an unlawful act is a right.

Burning the Koran is not a right. Matter of fact he will be Jailed if he sets them afire due to the Fire laws. Please stop acting like denying him from carrying out his terrorism is some attack on the first amendment. It isnt.

So everyone that disagrees with you here is a bigot? That's not very nice, and I'm kind of surprised to see that coming from you. In any case, your sucessive points have been refuted. Unless you can defend them, your argument really boils down to 'I don't like it, so it is wrong.'

I don't like it either, but our constitution gives him the right to do it.