Are you interested in a debate or just in posturing? If I see any evidence of the former, I will be glad to have a serious debate of these issues with you or anyone lese.

Everyone is sorry people were killed. The IDF was not planning to kill anyone, it just wanted to enforce its blockade, which would have meant turning the ship around or taking it to an Israeli port until it could be turned over to its owners. The participants decided to actively resist and it ended as you would expect when a group of untrained civilians decide to take on military professionals.

This will have absolutely zero impact on Israel, since every major power, no matter what public statements they put out, will analyse the situation exactly as I did. International politics has never been and will never be a matter of right and wrong, it is always a question of national interests.

We call them Palestinians since we accepted that they are Palestinians and we WANT them to have their own state
...but without buses blowing up and Katusha rockets falling here.
The problem is that they are led by bunch of terrorists.

The Holocaust of the Jews wasn't about right or wrong either then.

Exactly, we had God, the law and the "right" on our side, did that protect us? How many countries opened their borders to let the jews in during the thirties? How many countries lifted a finger to help jews during the war?

Jews figured out a long time ago that being on the "right" side of a machinegun is more important than being on the "right" side of the law.

No...it was about unhappy mad man who wanted to be a painter and a certain expoloits of human nature.

Well if the Jewish Holocaust doesn't mean anything then stop stealing other people's countries then, thank you in advance.

What country did we steal?
Who knows if it wasn't for certain people that believe in scary middle age stories about Jews we would not had returned to OUR country.

now you are just being even more ridiculous than usual......:arrgh!:

That even possible? :hmmm:

Some part of Finns originate from a place in modern day Russia near the river Volga, does that mean that we own that place, even today? God damn, you know how difficult it's going to be to convince the Russians that they should give our "holy land" back to us just because Palestine was given to the Jews by the Brits?

Before today I wouldn't have thought it possible, but not anymore :hmmm:

The establishment of the so called "line of death" was among the chief causes of the Lybia bombing of 1986 (Bombing that even some NATO, pro-US, countries condemmned). At the time, Lybia supported several guerrilla groups in the middle east, so -from a rational point of view- the US just tried to "teach a rogue nation a lesson". What is wrong in that?

Since we're speaking about blockades and alleged acts of piracy, the entrance of the US into WW1 was mostly the result of Germany unrestricted warfare against British and Britain inbound ships . Again, Germany -from a rational point of view- was just trying to starve an enemy into submission by cutting off its sea lanes. What was wrong in that?

If histhory serves to teach men something, that would be the mistakes.

What some people, politicians and nations fail to comprehend that brute force alone will win battles on the field but will cause wars to be lost.

So what? A merry band of zealots, an uncanny coalition of pacifists, pro-Palestine activists and idiotic do-gooders challenge the directives of a nation.

And what do they get, in return? They're met with brute force (provoked or not... that's not the point)

The ship was from Turkey (a NATO country and -formally- an ally of Israel)
The ship was still in international waters
The blockade is unilateral

The Israeli government stepped into a obvious trap that futher tarnished its image. They proved in front of the international media to be capable of ruthless actions and to pursue their goals regardless of the international laws.

I'm not saying other countries don't do the same but a measure of restraint is necessay not to mention that by alienating the public sympathies they will loose international support.

They won this battle but lost another bit of credibility. Sooner or later they will reach a point where the international public opinion will be totally indifferent if some trigger happy nutjob from a nearby countriy will decide to test his newly acquired nuclear arsenal against this antipatic country. A point will be reachen where people will just shrug and say "they deserved that". A lot of people in Europe are starting to think like this...

I think that the two sides in that region have gone beyond what we would call civilised,
And countrys that side with one or the other should send there troops to sort it out and take the hits instead of peace people

The commandos were armed with paintball guns and side arms.

After being attacked, they opened fire with their sidearms.

How about a link?