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DarkFish 05-03-10 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1380957)
Hmm, i should have included a poll for transportation preference...
would have only had 2 choices to put in: horse or car :O:

well the horses would get one vote indeed! (mine:oops:)
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Originally Posted by Feuer Frei! (Post 1380957)
As for wild horses as transport?
Good luck with taming one. Are you qualified to "break in" horses? If so, are you going to have time?

hmm? Who says I want to use wild horses?

I only said that wild horses survive on bushes and weeds, which means tame horses can do so too. I don't plan on using wild horses, I'd better take a car if I did:)
Even if I could tame them, and had the time for it, 2 problems would remain:
- Where am I gonna find wild horses?
- Even if I did find one and tamed it, I wouldn't have the time to develop a good enough bond between the two of us to let her unconditionally trust me. That horse would easily panic.

Raptor1 05-03-10 10:31 AM

Aha, they might be able to live off them, but would it keep them healthy enough to carry your load of supplies (You need to carry around much more than Cowboys did, don't forget) and be able to outmaneuver a horde of zombies at the same time?

A horse might well work as an individual transport, but you can't regularly count on it to perform well enough in any condition.

Besides that, the point about weapons. If you're being faces by little enough zombies to slip through the gaps with your horse, you can well take them out (At least a fair number of them) with well-placed shots from a battle rifle or similar weapon; it is certainly much safer than trying to run through and hoping the odd zombie doesn't land a hit on your horse.

DarkFish 05-03-10 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1 (Post 1381001)
Aha, they might be able to live off them, but would it keep them healthy enough to carry your load of supplies (You need to carry around much more than Cowboys did, don't forget) and be able to outmaneuver a horde of zombies at the same time?

Easily. What do you think horses used to eat in the past?
As for supplies, I plan on taking enough for only a few days. That gives me plenty of time to search farms for food. (don't forget I live in the Netherlands, farms are never further apart than let's say a kilometer. If it's summer I could easily find some vegetables.
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A horse might well work as an individual transport, but you can't regularly count on it to perform well enough in any condition.
Could you explain what exactly you mean with "perform well enough in any condition"? There are hundreds of thousands of different conditions, and equally many different ways of performing. Do you for example mean "run fast enough when a zombie horde chases you" or do you mean "can keep walking on a hot day" or do you mean [fill in random situation]?

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Besides that, the point about weapons. If you're being faces by little enough zombies to slip through the gaps with your horse, you can well take them out (At least a fair number of them) with well-placed shots from a battle rifle or similar weapon; it is certainly much safer than trying to run through and hoping the odd zombie doesn't land a hit on your horse.
Why take them out? If all the world is swarmed with zombie hordes, a few less zombies won't make a difference. I leave as much killing as possible for the army guys who've got the right equipment and training to do so effectively.
If you're on a horse, about the only usable weapons are melee weapons. Try accurately aiming a rifle while galloping towards the enemy, I'm pretty sure you can't.
Besides, if you're surrounded by zombies your best chance of survival is to flee, no matter what weapon you have. You might take out quite a few, but eventually the moment comes when you forget to look over your shoulder, or your reloading goes wrong, or whatever.

A car might be great to run over zombies, until the moment you crash into something solid which you couldn't see for all the zombies on your windshield.

But let's compare the good and bad points of a car and a horse:
Car:
-Good:
- Fast
- Superior armor/protection
- Lots of room for supplies etc.
-Bad:
- Needs fuel, if you can't get it soon enough you're dead
- Hard to fix in case of mechanical problems
- Can't get everywhere, it needs some sort of road/flat open terrain

Horse:
-Good:
- Very agile
- Can go everywhere a human can, no matter what terrain
- Finds its own "fuel"
- Still much faster than a zombie
- Injuries hard to heal, but generally don't take much more than just time, and in case of emergency would mostly still be able to run
-Bad:
- No armor/protection
- Limited room for supplies
- Can panic and refuse to follow your orders (especially with horses you don't know very well)

The good and bad points are pretty much the opposite as you see, which makes them useful for different strategies:
Horse:
-Avoid encounters with zombies
-Go off-road where there aren't many of them
-Search for supplies wherever you can.

Car:
-Drive on roads and through towns, where there are likely to be more zombies
-Bash through any zombie horde you find
-Take enough supplies to survive for quite some time
-Hope your car doesn't break down

Also, can horses be infected? I don't think so as I've never seen a horse zombie:06:

Raptor1 05-03-10 01:34 PM

Bah, nevermind, this isn't going too far as both of us are trying to argue against points the other one didn't make (And also I completely lost track of what we were talking about in the first place :O:).

Whether horses can be infected is a good question. I think it's logical that they can be infected and die off because of it, but I don't think they come back as horse zombies.

Oberon 05-03-10 02:31 PM

Zombie horses...I guess in theory it's possible, I mean a horse can bite, just ask any owner. :hmmm:

Dowly 05-03-10 02:39 PM

I'd call Chuck Norris, find a place with a good view, grab me a case of beer and watch Norris round-house kick the zombies. :hmmm::yep:

Schroeder 05-03-10 03:16 PM

What if Norris got infected himself? *Panicks*
An unstoppable Nombie!!!:damn:

Dowly 05-03-10 03:18 PM

His bloodcells round-house kick the virus. :yep:

Takeda Shingen 05-03-10 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1381259)
What if Norris got infected himself? *Panicks*
An unstoppable Nombie!!!:damn:

That would be the end. No castle, horse, shotgun or katana is taking that zombie down.

Oberon 05-03-10 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1381259)
What if Norris got infected himself? *Panicks*
An unstoppable Nombie!!!:damn:

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/ph...h_explodes.jpg

DarkFish 05-03-10 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1381202)
Zombie horses...I guess in theory it's possible, I mean a horse can bite, just ask any owner. :hmmm:

wait, would that mean dogs can turn into zombies too? and cats? and the blue-white-specked-red-beaked-forest-sparrow? that might be an even greater problem than chuck norris turning zombie:o

Platapus 05-03-10 08:05 PM

zombie mosquitoes?

zombie ants?

The mind boggles :o

Fr8monkey 05-03-10 08:57 PM

I always wondered.. If you are bit by a mosquito that bit a zombie, would you be infected?

August 05-03-10 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 1381260)
His bloodcells round-house kick the virus. :yep:

This ^

Feuer Frei! 05-03-10 10:42 PM

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