Here's a good article on piracy and its exaggerated impact:

http://www.mawhorter.net/general/pir...f-lost-profits

HItman, I wasn't talking about SH5. I was talking about the future line of games that UBI will release in the coming year.

RUSE
World in Conflict Soviet Assault
Splinter Cell Conviction
Assassin's Creed 2
PoP

This was released a while ago as an expansion?:hmmm:

RELEASE DATE: 13/03/2009

Sorry, that pretty much shows how much I care about that game :haha:

@ bad pirate_

interesting info about a side I never got in touch with.
do you think that publishers like UBI have contacts in there? or do they at least try to gain information about this scene?

Oh yes they can, I remember early versions of 3d studio max used to require a dongle.
it was cracked in no time with simple 20kb patch.

This thread makes me sad, because that mail can only mean SHV will have the nextgen DRM. Why should he defend it, otherwise.

And it didn't change my position by an inch. He repeats only old, flawed arguments pro DRM.

Really sad. So no SHV and probably no Storm Of War for me.

Did you stop at that point in my post or read on
:rotfl2:

I said they would just change the exe to ignore a dongle
As they do now anyway

:yeah:

Had to reply to this.

Games are cheap. $50 is expensive? Anyone who thinks a PC game is expensive should move out of Mom's basement. Seriously.

That's why I think the piracy numbers as it relates to sales are bogus. Games are already cheaper than a single night out for a few beers and some chow.

A very good question, Sir. USB / serial dongle keys used to be somewhat expensive, and were only found with some hi-end / professional applications in the past. But nowadays? I'm pretty sure you could manufacture a carpload of them quite reasonably...

Haaallooo UBI, now how's _that_ for a DRM solution??? :up:

EDIT / PS. But as others have already pointed out, uncrackable they're not. Still better than nothing IMHO - and nowadays cheap too.

Its "reds under the beds" time again....except this season it's pirates!

Yehar me mateys! Shiver me DRMs.

Err I stopped at that point, :oops: Im good at that :D

I don't think so......
Seeing as they are trying to impose these measures, I don't even think they try!
What they are saying there is what we are saying here. They are a funny bunch to hang out. Most have they multiplayer clans, competitions, one-on-one, they discuss released games, how long is it, is it stable, buggy, game story, tips & tricks, nothing "terroristic" about them...
After all, it's all common sense... Critics are always welcome!
Thing is, pirates are a scapegoat, an excuse for mediocre product quality that is being served today, as opposed to what it used to be.

Let me ask you something:
I make a car, call it GTX Turbo, and say:
This car has all the premium features like wheel turning, headlight, breathtaking design on speedometer, last-gen handbrake. But, to support me, you will have to pay additional 35$ for seatbelt and radio player. Also, I restricted maximum speed to 60 km/h because I want YOU to drive how I want! And yes, ,it had integrated gps system so i can track you whenever you use you car, so that i know you are using it.
But you brought another car instead that does not have these limitations, but the point is, YOU STOLE FROM ME! You sir, did not buy my car, but another, and I see that you did not give me your money. So I blame you for everything.
See the pattern? :smug:
No?
Me a dev, you a customer, car a game, limited features and restrictions....
Not a good comparison, but still awesome!
Here's something to think about, not related to discussion...
http://www.cracked.com/article_16404...ever-made.html

No more off topic from me.

NOTE: cracked.com is a humor site, not a software piracy.... thing....

P.S. Some countries are very poor, like where I am, so I am a pirate!
I have a job that is paid 260 a month.
It's all expensive and you're just living to survive.
Take bills, expenses and food, you don't have much to spend.
10-15e game I can afford. 50 euro game, not a chance in hell....

I applaud the dev in the OP for his great points, even though I do not applaud the OP himself for posting it here without the dev's permission.
You do realize, of course, that this is an incredibly flawed analogy.

John, did you clear this with the person about publishing his private message?