Oh crap now the UN 'takes over' now nothing will get done :oops:

Now I know why the Dems brought George Bush in. They need someone to blame!

Bingo! What does Hillary know about logistics in aid to any region? Well, zero. Welcome to the power play. Should be under USAID direction with military as well. But hey, what do I know.

Another reason planes were turned away... No place to 'park' them

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...haiti-airport/

How is that 33% of the bill, the bill as requested by the UN is $562million.
Meanwhile another bill as requested by the EU for Haiti is $604 million.

@Steamwake, it just seemed a strange choice of words when a minor accident in an event with possibly hundreds of thousands dead.

Yeah, nothing new there.

You don't mean to tell me Haiti is foriegn do you?

Oh god, its Billary isn't it.
Do you reckon that when she flies in for some publicity shots someone could lay on some real snipers to make up for what she missed out on in Tuzla?

:hmmm: Would some of the planes inbound be able to land on a dirt runway? I'm just wondering if it would be feasible to clear up some temporary runways to increase the amount of aircraft that can land unload and take-off again. Of course, this wouldn't do much about the unloading space as it would be limited at a temporary airport but it might do a little something. The main downside and reason I don't think it has been implemented is both a lack of resources and the possibility of a landing plane losing something and screwing the airfield up and destroying whatever and whoever is inside it.
To be brutal though, even a little aid getting through is better than nothing, sure, there's going to be a lot of casualties (approx 200k last I heard) but unfortunately that is how it is, and the people on the ground are doing the best they can, and aid is getting in. With a smashed up infrastructure that was pretty rubbish even before the earthquake ruined it, it's going to be chaotic, add to that gang wars and other chaos and the effort is going to be impeded more, French complaints or no French complaints.
Let's just let the guys get on with doing the best they can do with what they have and if we can get more resources to them to help them, then that's great too, but fighting over how that's going to happen and trying to reorganise everything in the middle of the operation is just going to make things worse.
That's the trouble with the world today, people expect and demand everything right now, and since we lack Star Trek style transporters, they are often disappointed and eager to blame someone for what they perceive as a delay. :damn:

Go back. Chech the link. And pay attention to detail.

You will find a list of nations, and how much they have ALREADY COMMITTED.
What the EU or FN/UN REQUESTS is immaterial.

If you read the whole article you will see they are doing more or less just that. Planes that can park on grass do so to make room for larger craft.

Military craft that can refuel airborne are asked to orbit while planes that cannot unload.

Sounds like an ATC nightmare...




Now in an example of you cant really trust any news comming out of there

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60H3QA20100118

Right on CNN :shifty:

Ah, my bad :damn:

Read before posting, read before posting, read before posting :damn:

Regarding the news report, that doesn't surprise me, most of the news coming out of there must be fragmented and putting 2 and 2 together often adds up to 30 in news agencies with fragmented news. Sky News and BBC News were like that on 7/7, at one point there was said to be about six explosions on the tube and three buses blown up but eventually it was corrected as more firm news came through.

Correct, this is Hillary's ballgame now. It was USAID and FEMA was under their direction. You will note Hillary was flying in with some supplies on her aircraft. Welcome to the PR tour.

Its one of the proposals the UN assesors have done after inspecting the situation, a problem arises though due to the mountainous terrain so its not only making a strip with a rerasonable approach, its making access to it for distribution.
The main workable moves so far are to improve the road from Cap Hatian as its the nearest workable port, to build a road to the one usable pier at Port au Prince docks, and to impove the overland route from Santadomingo(though they have already worked on that road to bring it down to an 18 hour drive.)

If it ain't a DC3 or a puddle jumper, you will not land on the dirt runway. No commerical carrier will land on the dirt with one of their aircraft. Not to mention the length of these runways will not accomdate a larger commercial aircraft.

This is positive news.

They are not talking about large commercial aircraft or commercial carriers.
They are talking of the UNHAS doing short haul transfers itself from regional airports into a temporary strip(but not their Ilyushins)

I think that additional small aircraft in the air would only exacerbate the problem in an area lacking in control tower support. Is it really worth the 18 hour trip when an aircraft can eventually arrive under the 18 hours for the road trip from a dirt field? Also, can we assure these trucks will go unmolested during this road trip?