I want the devs to succeed, but that won't happen in my case. I have no desire to roleplay a German sub. The more immersive it is, the less desire I have to fight for that side. I don't pretend to be a large segment of the market. I own Il-2, and I've never flown the LW, not once, not one plane. Before that, ww2ol (from closed beta days). Never spawned German, no plans to, ever. Warbirds? Ditto. AirWarrior before that? I flew a Bf-109 during a scenario once. I felt dirty, never again :)

I'll preorder SH5 if I can SINK u-boats, however.

I think the focus of SHV is to finally immerse the player as the Captain of a U Boat to a greater degree than ever before. Any control of surface assets will be very much secondary in my view.

I don't know too much about the software industry but I assume that the _devs_ would get only what they are paid per hour cummulated over the time they spent on that project. That's what I think they're gonna get for this title.
While on the other hand the publisher gets paid via sold copies.

But I'm not all sure about that, it just makes more sense to me that way ^^.

EDIT: Btw, I never buy games on day one. I wait for many reviews, especially from users to make up my mind about the game before I spend money on it.

As an employee of Ubisoft, I don't believe :hmmm:

I don't know the current salary levels of Ubisoft employee's in Romania, but two years ago the mobile phone manufacturer Nokia closed the doors of the factory here in Germany and moved to Romania. The reason they told us are that Romanian employees, especially highly qualified technicians, would work for 1/10 of the Western European labor costs.

Ahem, let's not remind the devs how much they'd be payed in other countries. They might emigrate and leave sh5 unfinished :haha:

IMHO You are mixing politics with gaming and you are letting it ruin you experience.
Its just a game, a bunch of polygons representing something real.

Now, I could argue aginst this fact - if game was depicting scenes that I deemed to be in TRULEY poor taste.

But in this case we are mearly talking about the flags and emblems that are displayed on your player unit and those which you destroy... not offensive to me what so ever.
Cotext is everything....

So I personally (in the case of silent hunter) I can respect your feelings - but I cannot understand such an extreme level of sensitivity being applied to this game.

in reality i hate nazis too. but Silent hunter is not reality.

Im not saying im right and your wrong or anything like that.....just giving my 5 cents that all..

As I said, I realize I am not a large segment of the market, and I can appreciate your POV.

I'll try u-boats when there is a ww1 game out :)

fair enuff mate :salute:

If you compare dollars to donuts the years of enjoyment we lunatics get out of the SH series I would gladly pay more that the $49.99. Just don't tell Dan that. :o

:yep:

But you also have to look at the hidden costs in keeping up with the
times :oops::oops:

Video cards, ram, other upgrades, etc., etc.

It's all good though :DL:up:

Thats a given....like after a drinking binge where you go to the local burger joint because you have the munchies. In doing so you scarf down $35.00 worth of burger and fries. :doh: Look at the other side, no going out to drink you money away at the bar. The game assists in becoming totally disconnect to the real world thus saving mounds of cash that you would have otherwised spent if you were anywhere remotely close to normal. :har: So, we are all basically saving a crap load of money.

At this moment, the poll says that 28% of you will wait 6 months to buy the game and pay almost nothing to Ubisoft for Silent Hunter 5.,:hmmm:
So it is 28% less money for development:wah:
The game will only barely pay for the development costs (if only):timeout:
Romanian employees, especially highly qualified technicians, would work for 1/10 of the Western European labor costs:hmmm:
I am glad that SH5 is developed in Romania:salute::yeah::up:

To Captain von Keldunk
Sir, as a highly qualified romanian technician, I expect more respect from a member of the armed forces, especially a captain such as yourself. I take offense to your previous comment and would like to meet you tomorrow noon in Bucharest, in a pub at your convenience for a duel to the floor in beer drinking. The duel will be fought with any weapon that is properly cooled and served in big glasses.

I expect nothing else than a logical excuse to this silly comment, in which case, I will drink myself to the floor alone.

Your's truly.. etc etc :salute:

Here's a example of how game developer's cost estimate may be rewarded. The calculation is not based on any specific project, it's a simplified example from a small german dev-studio.

But usually there are these two models:
- Adv. against royalties
and
- pofit share model

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...3931633065.jpg

Today I drank half a litre of Lapin Kulta beer.:woot: What do you drink in Bucharest:hmmm:
"I don't know the current salary levels of Ubisoft employee's in Romania, but two years ago the mobile phone manufacturer Nokia closed the doors of the factory here in Germany and moved to Romania":hmmm:
Nokia comes from same country as Lapin Kulta.:yeah: