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darius359au 11-29-08 07:57 PM

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With regards to the supposed "controversy" surrounding F3: while I can understand some of NMA's criticisms, that type of irrational, neurotic super-fan rapidly becomes depressing to listen to. ... I doubt they'd have been happy with the game unless it came in a scratched jewel case and could only be run in glorious Super VGA on a beige Pentium 90 with Windows ME, the music coming through an Ad Lib soundcard.

Sure, you genius, if they could only run F3 in low res and ugly colors, they'd like it too! They are just too weird to appreciate something of such ravishing beauty as Bethesdas new Masterwork, though the reviews in the media outlets are unchallengeable proof this is better than any other RPG.

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I can remember PC gaming in the 90s and earlier - for the most part, it was crap. No golden age, I can assure you.

It might as well be that you have no clue, or just very bad taste.

Anyway, I don't want to disturb the party, or be in the way of the Bethesda PR train. Just next time you try to ridicule something you don't understand, please remember there are other people reading the thread too!

NMA is typical of any long term hardcore fansite , if a new version of their favorite game comes out and its not exactly like what their used to playing then things get nasty , but the thing is , it all boils down to personal preference - If you liked the old version and hate the new one thats fine , But its also ok to like the old and the new , But people at NMA seem to have forgotten that in all the hate and complaints about FO3 and nothings going to change their minds anyway ,so the best thing to do is not worry about it and go back to gooping super mutants with a plasma rifle , and let them get back to doing the same thing in their way;)

Ps - And yes , I still have FO1,2 and Tactic's on my computer and I still play them:up:

SUBMAN1 11-30-08 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Vlad
Though I think I enjoyed FO1 and FO2 more on the first playthrough, Arcanum is the member of that little family I keep wanting to go back and play again.

FO3 has been damned fun so far; I find it's not one of those play-till-I-finish obsessions like some other games...it's more 'load it up, play a while, log off with a smile and return tomorrow', much like the first two were for me. That's a good thing. Makes the experience last longer....

I think what makes it so fun is that there is just too much to do and explore. I'm capped at level 20, but I have only touched part of the world so far. I kind of like being capped at level 20 too. It still makes things like a Deathclaw something to take seriously!

Just took out Paradise, and removed the slavers in it. Got rid of a large Raiders camp too. Kind of fun that one with me letting loose a behemoth Super Mutant that rampaged the whole place making my job easy!

What is so good about Fallout 3? It has that rare 'just one more thing' syndrome associated with rare good games. If you find yourself saying just one more thing while you watch the clock, then you know you have a gem.

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Tachyon 11-30-08 12:31 AM

Those enclave camps and the vertibirds that pop up soon during the main quest also added to the atmosphere. In Fallout 2 , you didn't exactly get to see one of them land in front of you and drop troopers off. Totally agree with the "just one more thing" syndrome, time flies by on it's own.

Captain Vlad 11-30-08 01:12 AM

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I think what makes it so fun is that there is just too much to do and explore. I'm capped at level 20, but I have only touched part of the world so far. I kind of like being capped at level 20 too. It still makes things like a Deathclaw something to take seriously!

I was wondering if that was what they were up too with the level cap, and I'm glad to see I was right. On one hand, it does mean that, after a certain point, you don't get an advancement rush, but if my math is right, it also means you'll get to a point where you still have to contend with certain strengths and weaknesses in your character, which is as it should be.

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What is so good about Fallout 3? It has that rare 'just one more thing' syndrome associated with rare good games. If you find yourself saying just one more thing while you watch the clock, then you know you have a gem.
And that's nasty when combined with the way the graphics let you see so far. I keep playing longer than I intended when I see some building off in the distance and feel compelled to go see what it is. This, incidentally, is one of the few games where I've wished I had a pair of binoculars.

SUBMAN1 11-30-08 11:51 AM

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...This, incidentally, is one of the few games where I've wished I had a pair of binoculars.

You do. Its called a sniper rifle. I carry it for that reason, and the fact that even though it only says it does so much damage, though when you hit with it, it always seems to hurt whatever way more than what it suggests on paper.

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SUBMAN1 11-30-08 11:58 AM

Some nice HDR lighting:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/585/screenshot5rm5.jpg

Tachyon 11-30-08 01:23 PM

Btw guys, if you've seen funny green lights streaking across the sky at night, keep your eyes peeled for some Alien power cells on the floor.

Wolfehunter 11-30-08 03:07 PM

I gave the game a try on my friend system.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...creenShot3.jpg
Ranger camp.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...creenShot5.jpg

Over all its a passable game but has major bug issue that needs gamers to resolve on their own to fix it.

Still a fallout world yet not a true fallout sequel. Game is good overall. I'll wait till all the modders have fixed the game to a truer original fallout series.

I know child killing is done but has some graphical glitches. Evil isn't truelly evil in this game which sucks. Problem is when you go above the level cap as an evil character it crashes. :nope: Can't wait till nudity is back then the fallout world will be complete. :hmm:

Maybe with GECK comming out soon who knows? It will take the modder to fix it properly. I'll be waiting patiently.;)

Captain Vlad 12-01-08 01:34 AM

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You do. Its called a sniper rifle. I carry it for that reason, and the fact that even though it only says it does so much damage, though when you hit with it, it always seems to hurt whatever way more than what it suggests on paper.

Yeah, I use the scope for that as well, though it's not quite the 'see what's waaaay over there' tool I continually wish for.

I'd assumed there was such a weapon early on when I found some .308 rounds with no weapon for them. Got excited when I found one, only to note it was almost completely shot. Finally got a nice, fully functional one (with a name...Reservist Rifle) and I'd been corralling as much ammo for it as I could, so I got to give it a nice breaking in when I snuck up on a hill beside a raider encampment. Heheh. They never saw it coming, especially the one with the missile launcher, who earned my first round.

With GECK coming, I'm hoping for a silenced version. Or maybe a scoped hunting rifle.

SUBMAN1 12-01-08 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfehunter
...I know child killing is done but has some graphical glitches.

I don't have any graphical glitches. Sounds like a driver update could fix this for you since it may not be the software.

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Evil isn't truelly evil in this game which sucks. Problem is when you go above the level cap as an evil character it crashes. :nope:
Quite cheating and then it won't crash! I can't believe you are complaining about this. If you are operating outside of a software programs normal parameters, then expect problems! Duh! :p Don't ever complain about this type of thing again please. Thanks.

As for being evil, explain the diff between the original Fallout out this one when it comes to your alignment. I am playing a good character. Become a vampire if you want to be evil. I'm sure everyone will hate you then.

And it looks like some working ICBM's still exist in game so if you feel like nuking DC one more time, that may be possible. Is that evil enough for you? I have the launch codes now.

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Can't wait till nudity is back then the fallout world will be complete. :hmm:
The Geck I'm sure will solve this for you.


What I gather from your post, it is pretty hallarious that you started playing the game looking for something to rag on it about, yet you found nothing! :D

Go buy it already and start contributing to the thread! :up:

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Dowly 12-01-08 10:39 AM

Isnt there already nudity modded? I'm sure I saw some armor for the raiders where the female's boobs were hanging out. :hmm: MMmmmm... boobies...

SUBMAN1 12-01-08 11:30 AM

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Isnt there already nudity modded? I'm sure I saw some armor for the raiders where the female's boobs were hanging out. :hmm: MMmmmm... boobies...

Watch it! There may be chloroform in those boobi's!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145003

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Wolfehunter 12-01-08 11:51 AM

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Isnt there already nudity modded? I'm sure I saw some armor for the raiders where the female's boobs were hanging out. :hmm: MMmmmm... boobies...

Watch it! There may be chloroform in those boobi's!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=145003

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I'll buy it when I feel its worth the investment. I saw the few partial nude mods not very promising yet. But time will fix this.

I'll tune in to the beth and NMA site for updates. When I see something major that reflects my interests then I will get the game not before. Its still to early for buying FO3 with all the bugs.

For the child mod killer graphic glitch isn't from graphic drivers. Its from the fact that child meshs and animations don't have the dismemberment feature like adults bodies do. Modders are working on it. I think their hoping that GECK will make it easier for them to do it.

Vampires in Fallout? I've herd of that. Kinda alittle too much Oblivion for me for a fallout series.:hmm:

Every game I own I operate out of its programing limitations. That is normal. Why mod then? Point is you like the game as is. I don't. I want better. Time will provide it maybe... Either or no loss for me. I'll focus on other games that gives me my fix lol.

NeonSamurai 12-01-08 12:37 PM

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As far as I know you can't become a vampire just learn how to get some health from blood packs.

As for evil, I dunno, my character has been pretty evil. He has killed most of the wandering traders (most favorite way is the bomb in the pants routine), for megaton he went around and massacred the entire village, then nuked it for good measure. He has wiped out most other villages he has encountered, and enslaved a bunch of different people, though he has spared tenpenny tower and rivet city, but only for supply reasons (though he is stockpiling so he can eventually be independent). His favorite ways of causing suffering are the bomb in the pants gag, shooting people in the leg with the dart gun and watching them run around till the poison gets them, and setting them on fire. Quest wise though there isnt much.

Btw I wouldn't call raising the level cap cheating per say, just modding :)

Oh and unfortunatly I don't think the launch codes work. My guy went to one of the main nuke places (nuking everyone appealed to him), he found a massive storage area for big boy type bombs (with about 30 or 40 shiny glistening bombs on the racks which made him drool and wish he could take them home, or for a working fueled bomber), and launch codes and the launch bunker but nothing to launch with. But who knows maybe somewhere out there there is another nuke or more which he can detonate.


As another topic I wana mention that at level 20 you can in fact cap most of your skills at 100 if you put 9 inteligence at the start then immediatly get the inteligence bobble head (and get all the others later on, plus skill books). A lot of the perks are not worth getting also, and you can fit most of the great must have perks into one character fairly easily. I especialy suggest avoiding any of the ones that give a slight skill boost (+5 in 2 skills) (educated is realy good though if you get it immediatly, it will net 48 skill points). Also I would add that i think lawbringer and especialy contract killer sucks, the money you get is pathetic, the karma is irrelevant (you'll probably be maxed out either way by the time you get the perk), and for contract killer there are virtualy no good characters other then a few in the towns, and those guys who hunt you.

My character is a virtual god at level 16. He has maxed out energy, big, and small guns, sneak, lockpicking, melee weapons, repair, and unarmed. the rest of his skills are at 50-80 and he will probably cap most of those too considering he gains 23 skill points per level. His stats are 8 8 7 6 10 10 8. His perks are the ones that maximised his stats, and the rest turn him into a leathal weapon in and out of VATS. This was also all gained legitimately, no cheats or mods used.

Tachyon 12-01-08 07:30 PM

If you ask me, the Perk that sucks the most is Computer Whiz. According to the description, it says that you can hack a terminal again if you failed the first time. What it didn't mention is that you can only hack it for a maximum of two tries. :P

Would have been worth it if it let you attempt to hack the terminal infinitely.




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