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Bruno Lotse 08-21-08 04:48 PM

Ok.
You guys just keep on talking.:lol:
Russian guys just keep on doing.:arrgh!:

SUBMAN1 08-21-08 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruno Lotse
Ok.
You guys just keep on talking.:lol:
Russian guys just keep on doing.:arrgh!:

I take it you have forgotten about what else is happening in the world?

The USA to Russia, is like Russia to Georgia. We would be doing the doing in any war.

-S

Zero Niner 08-21-08 07:44 PM

Not a good idea to ride on ERA-equipped tanks.
You're literally sitting on explosives... :o

darius359au 08-21-08 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Niner
Not a good idea to ride on ERA-equipped tanks.
You're literally sitting on explosives... :o

Gets better for Rambo on the front there , if you look closely he's got 2 magazines taped together ala Hollywood , I really wouldn't like his chances of getting that second magazine to feed - I got taught that it looks good BUT you've got a very good chance of filling the feed with dirt at a minimum and bending the feed rails as well.

AntEater 08-22-08 02:18 AM

It seems the missile Boat Tbilisi's missile containers were empty. If they had been loaded, there would've been nothing left of the near vicinity. 500 kg or so of warhead, rocket fuel, booster rocket.... Termit ASMs are huge. But apparently that missile boat was not in seaworthy condition anyway. The second missile boat Dioskuria, a french build Combattante, was towed away and scuttled in deep water, apparently. Maybe it had Exocets on board Even though a whopping two missile boats of two different types with two different missiles are hardly an effective force anyway. I wonder who's going to deliver replacements? AFAIK the greeks scrapped all their older Combattantes, our Type 148 are either gone to Tunisia, Chile or Egypt and no other NATO member has older missile boats. Maybe they will get new ones bought by US funding?

Jimbuna 08-22-08 06:27 AM

I should imagine that when this madness ends, the replacement equipment will be better than what it is replacing.

Happy Times 08-22-08 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna
I should imagine that when this madness ends, the replacement equipment will be better than what it is replacing.

Oh yes, NATO has allready an evaluation team in Georgia to see what they need, better for the Georgians the more Russians destroy.:up:

Wreford-Brown 08-22-08 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna
I should imagine that when this madness ends, the replacement equipment will be better than what it is replacing.

Oh yes, NATO has allready an evaluation team in Georgia to see what they need, better for the Georgians the more Russians destroy.:up:

The Afghan National Army is already being equipped with NATO weapons: M16 and SAW are being phased in so far.

I guess the US arms industry has found another niche in the market and is probably rubbing its hands waiting to supply the Georgian Army.

Happy Times 08-22-08 07:06 AM

Good for Finland, they have to focus on their southern border also.:up:

Bruno Lotse 08-22-08 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AntEater
It seems the missile Boat Tbilisi's missile containers were empty. If they had been loaded, there would've been nothing left of the near vicinity. 500 kg or so of warhead, rocket fuel, booster rocket.... Termit ASMs are huge. But apparently that missile boat was not in seaworthy condition anyway. The second missile boat Dioskuria, a french build Combattante, was towed away and scuttled in deep water, apparently. Maybe it had Exocets on board Even though a whopping two missile boats of two different types with two different missiles are hardly an effective force anyway. I wonder who's going to deliver replacements? AFAIK the greeks scrapped all their older Combattantes, our Type 148 are either gone to Tunisia, Chile or Egypt and no other NATO member has older missile boats. Maybe they will get new ones bought by US funding?

Why? Before blowing up Russkies would strip anyting to beef up their stockpiles:arrgh!:

Some stuff from most recent "findings" in Georgia
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445793.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445795.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445797.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445799.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445803.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445801.jpg

A close-up
http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1445999.jpg

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...hm/1447310.jpg
Nice looking former Georgian armour.
Finally it's in the hands of people who can fight not just talk.

Hey, Russkies don't waste time there ;)

Jimbuna 08-22-08 11:58 AM

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/fo...47/1447286.jpg

"At last, some decent equipment to use". :p

AntEater 08-22-08 12:18 PM

Hmm, opinions by non US soldiers about US made rifles vary from "crap" to "usable but nothing spectacular"

The weirdest sight of the whole conflict were those BMPs with "Vostok" and "Chechnya" written all over them.
As these are ex georgian, it seems the Chechens invented a new kind of infantry:
the "self-mechanizing infantry"
:rotfl:

The only real trouble will be to seperate the Chechens from all their new toys when they pull out.
I've read somewhat further and it seems the "Vostok" and "Zapad" battalions are mostly formed from families who are opposed to ruling President Ramzan Kadyrov but are still loyal to Russia.
There were apparently some shooting incidents between Vostok and Kadyrov's forces. Since both Kadyrov's security forces and the two GRU battalions are technically russian army, the russian army was fighting itself.
Better to keep those guys out of Chechnya and occupied with plundering somebody else instead of them trying to topple Kadyrov.

Just a reminder that any kind of war in the caucasus is bound to spiral into tribal warfare.

Bruno Lotse 08-22-08 12:52 PM

The boss of the self-mechanizing Chechen Vostok troops
http://pics.utro.ru/utro_photos/2008/08/22/751big.jpg

Colonel Sulim Jamadaev
Former Soviet para in Afghan where he earned the Golden Star
later Jihad Fighter in Chechnija against Russians (he does namaz and everything)
now commanding officer of the Vostok troops.

These guys are asking Russians to let them stay in Georgia as mobile peacekeepers ;)

Just let them stay and that's it - all the rest - supplies, ammo, transport, women
- self-sufficiency. Hey, Georgia is right here.
VERY efficient force ;)

Well, why not?
It could be a way to keep these guys happy and busy.
Very very busy.


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