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wstaub 05-26-07 10:26 PM

Strange question but you said historically the red rings are accurate. If that is the case how could they see the red rings when they operated with red googles on at night to help preserve their night vision? Not a criticism, just a question.

panthercules 05-26-07 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wstaub
Strange question but you said historically the red rings are accurate. If that is the case how could they see the red rings when they operated with red googles on at night to help preserve their night vision? Not a criticism, just a question.

I would assume that only the bridge/watch crew or potential gun crew (i.e., folks likely to need to go up on deck at night) would want or need to wear such goggles - I wouldn't think that the radar operators would typically be used for such on-deck activities - I would think they'd stay down in the boat glued to their screen so the goggles probably wouldn't be the issue. I think the bigger issue would be if/when they switched over the in-boat lighting to red - if the radar sets were in the same part of the boat that would seem to make red lines an odd choice.

Mraah 05-27-07 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by panthercules
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Originally Posted by wstaub
Strange question but you said historically the red rings are accurate. If that is the case how could they see the red rings when they operated with red googles on at night to help preserve their night vision? Not a criticism, just a question.

I would assume that only the bridge/watch crew or potential gun crew (i.e., folks likely to need to go up on deck at night) would want or need to wear such goggles - I wouldn't think that the radar operators would typically be used for such on-deck activities - I would think they'd stay down in the boat glued to their screen so the goggles probably wouldn't be the issue. I think the bigger issue would be if/when they switched over the in-boat lighting to red - if the radar sets were in the same part of the boat that would seem to make red lines an odd choice.

In my mind it seemed plausable that the bearing ring could be seen since it's self illuminating, not a red mark along the edge. It lead to a "realistic" response from me. Sure, realistic but for which equipment and in what era. I jumped to a conclusion base on my experience, which doesn't include an enviroment under an overhead redlight. Very good observations. It's a mystery to me with only black and white photo's as a guide.

I'm just glad LukeFF was able to salvage the peices :cry: .
Thanks for input!! That display is going on the back burner. Looks good tho!

:ping: Mraah

Bando 05-27-07 04:51 AM

Mraah,

Thank you and the others for this mod that's just a great idea. I've installed the nr 1 option from your first thread with JSGME.

It seems that the radar operator sees the radar returns eg. the echo's, but I do not. Not a single "blib" on my screen. Both improved radars on board.

Please advise.

Thanks,
Bando

MONOLITH 05-27-07 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bando
It seems that the radar operator sees the radar returns eg. the echo's, but I do not. Not a single "blib" on my screen. Both improved radars on board.

Change the scale setting.

Sounds like you'e looking at a close range scale, with a target further away, thus no blips.

The game however, will "see" the target, regardless of what visual scale the player is looking at.

Set your radar to the longest range scale, and you should see the target.

AVGWarhawk 05-27-07 06:36 AM

I just put in the new and improved version and it is awesome! I love the rings and heading numbers put in. It really helps in setting a relative course. Nice work men! A+++ effort and it shows:up:

Bando 05-27-07 09:36 AM

Hello Monolith,I did change the scale, checked the other scope (for distance) and this did not produce a spike. Don't know what happens. I'll try a brand new install later on, maybe that's the problem.Right now I see no blibs, alas....

Mraah 05-27-07 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bando
Mraah,
It seems that the radar operator sees the radar returns eg. the echo's, but I do not. Not a single "blib" on my screen. Both improved radars on board.
Please advise.
Thanks,
Bando


If Monolith's fix doesn't work then it could be three other possibilities :

1. Your "radarcontact.dss" is missing. Which my mod doesn't touch.

2. You're running Small Contact Mod ... sometimes target's get really small, like a "." size. It's an odd occurance I haven't figured out yet.

3. Your SD radar detects the target and not the SJ, which is SH4 default.

Anyone else getting this from same version?

:ping:

MONOLITH 05-27-07 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I just put in the new and improved version and it is awesome!

Which one exactly...

So many types, so many links...I'm getting confused. :oops:

AVGWarhawk 05-27-07 10:26 AM

I used Mraah number two that does not have the red numbers around the edge. PPI_BLACK_TEST_FF_2. A few posts back. Looks great!

MONOLITH 05-27-07 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bando

It seems that the radar operator sees the radar returns eg. the echo's, but I do not. Not a single "blib" on my screen. Both improved radars on board.

Please excuse the dumb question, but since it's a possibility...

You do have the radar sweeping, yes? Meaning..,. the arm is not stuck in a static position on the screen?

Bando 05-27-07 07:05 PM

Hello Monolith and Mraah,

Yes I do let the radar sweep around. I myself am a navy guy, working with radar, believe me, it sweeps. :lol:

I did a fresh install on the whole game, patch 1.2 and the rfb 1.27 mod. I have some more mods, but they are relatively small.
Before I install the PPI mod, which I really, really want, could you tell me which one to install? There are a lot of mods and links in this thread.:yep:

Furthermore there's a request from my side. Is it at all possible to zoom in on the radar screen. I mean, to zoom so the radar screen fills the monitor with the nobs to sweep and change distance still visible/usable. I think when zoomed in just a bit, one can read the bearings and rangering numbers a lot easier.:o

Thanks for your replies so far,:up:

Greetings
Bando

wstaub 05-27-07 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk
I used Mraah number two that does not have the red numbers around the edge. PPI_BLACK_TEST_FF_2. A few posts back. Looks great!

I agree just installed the same version and all I can say is great job!:up::up::up::up::up:

Mraah 05-27-07 11:06 PM

Monolith,

That's the funniest and BEST scope view I've ever seen!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL.

http://www.mayhemonstrings.com/Images/Goby.jpg

:ping: Mraah

Mraah 05-27-07 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bando
Furthermore there's a request from my side. Is it at all possible to zoom in on the radar screen. I mean, to zoom so the radar screen fills the monitor with the nobs to sweep and change distance still visible/usable. I think when zoomed in just a bit, one can read the bearings and rangering numbers a lot easier.:o
Bando

Earlier in this thread I asked the same question hoping someone would know how to move the camera so it sit's on top of the PPI .... so far no replies. I'm going to ask this in the main thread and see if anyone knows.

I want to be so close that it burns an image on my face!!! Muahahah.

Still on the case ....

:ping: Mraah


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