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- - A message from the Silent Hunter IV Dev Team (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108470)

Liszt_

03-23-07 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

This is the last Ubi game I will buy, I dont like them making me feel like this and Im not going to put up with it.

See u for Silent Hunter 5!

Capt. D

03-23-07 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

A message from the Silent Hunter IV Dev Team:

“We are working hard to correct the bugs discovered by the community or the testing team. Already patch v1.1 corrects many of the issues, and we’re at work on the next one. We have strong hopes it will include both Anti-Aliasing and a fix for the issues experienced when running the game in very high resolutions.

However, some issues pointed out, like for example the 2D appearance of crewmembers, the random counting by the crew or the eyes popping out from the men’s heads are actually part of the protection scheme. Playing a cracked version of the game or even using a no-cd crack over a legal install of SH4 game triggers this protection.

Obviously, running a legit version of the game should not produce these problems. Since we have found at least one documented case where such behavior was experienced by the owner of an actual copy of the game, we have contacted the company producing the protection used by the game.

We will track down the issue and sort it out. In the interest of helping us do so, please post here if you are seeing these issues, while running a legit version of the game."

Thank you,
The SHIV dev team

Thanks Neal for the update!:D Hopefully the devs will be getting any of the other "bugs" soon.

Happy Hunting! :ping:

novafluxx

03-23-07 11:43 AM

I don't need the disc to play...

I got it on direct2drive. heh

No swapping discs for me!

Good news though! I hope the next patch really fixes things and maybe adds some features! Love the chice between imperial and metric!

ref	03-23-07 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Potoroo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m

No graphics option is disabled, no matter the installed video card.

The 1.2 patch will feature FSAA and superior texture filtering if forced from the video card driver.

You are not in a position to know that for sure.

Yes he is ;)

Ref

ryuzu

03-23-07 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potoroo

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerean_m

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanker15

So if they get AA working, which option will have to be disabled for cards older than the 8800? Which one of the graphics options controls the HDR it dosn't really say?

SH4 uses Shader Model 2.0, to work on all recent video cards (including Ati X800).
HDR can't be supported since it requires Shader Model 3.0.

It's common for games to support more than one shader model. There is no technical reason SH4 cannot support both SM2.0 and SM3.0/HDR right now.

Quote:

No graphics option is disabled, no matter the installed video card.

The 1.2 patch will feature FSAA and superior texture filtering if forced from the video card driver.

You are not in a position to know that for sure.

He might be in a position to know that for sure - I came across his name in one of the files delivered on the game dvd ;)

r.

Ping Jockey

03-23-07 12:08 PM

Good to see the DEV Team is supporting SHIV this way. Already working on patch #2. Thanks for the "heads up" Neal. :up: :up:

Potoroo

03-23-07 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryuzu

He might be in a position to know that for sure - I came across his name in one of the files delivered on the game dvd ;)

Fair enough. I do wonder why a dev isn't on the official Ubi forum though.

highkoo

03-23-07 12:17 PM

Its really sad to see the effects of big industry on any format of public consumption, now that games are huge and the player bases are growing we can all pretty much expect to see the value of products and any respect for customers dive further and further into the hole. Such is the way of greed i suppose but it is a sad state of affiars that we as paying customers can become so well trained and complacent that we no longer bare the strenght to fight nor stand up for what we know is right. I see people all over these forums stating how "Ubi is great" and "what an amazing job they did" while in reality i dare any of you to honestly show me how this is the case? But fine everyone is entitiled to there opinnions so i have no quarrels with anyone who really enjoys Sh4 in its current state, but please do not attack those who wish to express there disatisfaction.

As far as software companies using copywrite protection to protect there bottom line, well this is a clear example of what is important to these companies and strangley enough its not there costumers. Now most of you may think well.... what else are companies supposed to care most about??? they have to make money right!
Yes of course they do, but strangley enough making your customers happy and making lots of money go hand in hand (what a strange concept i might add:roll:) why companies dont seem to unerstand this human dynamic still eludes me but thats besides the point.

A note to all:
If you find that you are not happy with a product then i encourage you to speak up about it as the squeeky wheel gets the oil. if you do not let these companies know that you are not satisfied by voice and purchase then i assure all of you they will continue to serve you an increasingly complex and well packaged plate of steaming hot Poo!

PS.
SH4 is by no means a subsim; there is very little that is simulator about it, actually. Check out "Dangerous Waters" if you want a SIMULATOR although not nearly as pretty as SH4

Commence with the Flamming!!!!:arrgh!:

Spaxspore

03-23-07 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highkoo

Commence with the Flamming!!!!:arrgh!:

am not, cause i agree

SharpShin

03-23-07 12:21 PM

I also agree.

Koinonos

03-23-07 12:23 PM

Thank you SH4 developers

I personally thank you for being willing to chase down the easy and the thorny issues related to SH4. Those of us who are fans of your developement projects (SH3/SH4) completely separate your coding/fixing ability from UBI's game development cycle. You got shoved into the pressure cooker with a 9 month schedule and now your desire to leave a legacy of delivering a great game to your fans is what is driving you to fix the issues as you find them.

I personally am looking very forward to having FSAA and a higher fidelity 3D world at 1920x1200.

Here's hoping you are permitted to release the SH3/SH4 SDK's soon to see what the modders (ex: jscones, juju, ducimus, etc and the GWX team) is capable of to further enhance this already great game.

shanec (Koinonos)
Issaquah, WA

ReM	03-23-07 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Potoroo

Fair enough. I do wonder why a dev isn't on the official Ubi forum though.

Because Subsim is:
Quote:

The Web's #1 BBS for all submarine and naval simulations!

The UBI forums definitely are not

nhall70

03-23-07 12:28 PM

Wow! :D

If they can get FSAA into this game and fix the resolution problems, this may end up being one of the best looking games I've ever seen! I can barely believe what I'm hearing...this has made my whole weekend!

I'm very impressed that the dev team has acknowledged these problems and are working to correct them. Now I can play SH4 with a whole new level of interest and dream about what it will be like after the next patch.

To the dev team...thanks very much for taking the time to let us know you are working on these issues.

Immacolata

03-23-07 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReM

Maybe next time UBI might want to use something like this for their games:

OMG! IS that a dongle? LOL! I haven't seen one of those since...

/looks at macbook

Oh wait I have :) Mac - worlds biggest softwaredongle :P

Highkoo, its not as much that your points are not valid. They are. But its that you and seemingly the rest of all the world's good men and their dogs feel the urge to step up on each their little soap box, and each voice their righteous indignation and spilling it all over us. Its just getting to be
Really
Old
Hat

Sigh.

Im not going to start coming up with defenses for what state SH4 ships in or not. I take it as it is now. Im done whining. I suggest you do to. You REALLY want to give your opinion to someone who cares? Send Ubisoft a letter! And spare me for more of theses trite rants about paying beta testers, copy protection, companies that give a hoot about customers etc.

So
Tiresome.

I wanna talk about submarines. Not see endless pages of contentious drivel.

... Ill step off MY soap box now.

mookiemookie

03-23-07 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immacolata

Highkoo, its not as much that your points are not valid. They are. But its that you and seemingly the rest of all the world's good men and their dogs feel the urge to step up on each their little soap box, and each voice their righteous indignation and spilling it all over us. Its just getting to be
Really
Old
Hat

Sigh.

Im not going to start coming up with defenses for what state SH4 ships in or not. I take it as it is now. Im done whining. I suggest you do to. You REALLY want to give your opinion to someone who cares? Send Ubisoft a letter! And spare me for more of theses trite rants about paying beta testers, copy protection, companies that give a hoot about customers etc.

So
Tiresome.

I wanna talk about submarines. Not see endless pages of contentious drivel.

... Ill step off MY soap box now.

http://www.lehtone.net/kuvat/smiley_applause.gif Well said.

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