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Jimbuna 07-16-23 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2876591)
I have been searching on YT trying to find same video as posted here on this page.

Here this POW is from Ukraine. The video I try to find he is a Russian POW.

I could be wrong I'm pretty sure I have seen same video some month ago, where the situation was the other way around.

Markus

Markus, to be brutally honest and frank with you....much depends on the sympathies of the person posting.

Skybird 07-16-23 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo (Post 2876565)
Russia’s average assault time to capture a town was like 55 days in their offensive last summer. It took Russia 10 months to move 13 km and Ukraine moving 10 km in 30 days.

So what? Both events are not causally comparable.

And btw, if Ukraine continues to move at that pace, they will need another 8-9 months to reach the coast. Its just that their offensove cannot hold its breath that long. Nor can its soldiers. At the current rate, there will be no soldiers form ther attack brigades left in 8-9 months.

Okay, black humour off.

What counts is the total remaining strength of Ukraine and the current loss ratio. The rest is mathematics. Industrial war IS mathematics. Russia can afford high losses, Ukraine not so well. They feel the many lacks already now.

They need a decisive breakthrough within the next 4-6 weeks, I say. If by then they still linger around with only the outpost line before the first defence line, a new round of fixed trench warfare will begin, favouring Russia.

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I hope that Putin stays wehre he is, and stay salive. If he goes away in any way, the risk is that he will be replaced with somebody as brutal - but of more military competence. The last thing Ukraine needs is a competent military leader in the Kremlin, a new Shukov for example.

August 07-16-23 01:59 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4olUtjDGyc

Catfish 07-16-23 02:00 PM

Russian airborne division threatens to revolt if Teplinsky is removed from his post.

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...72872542773248

Jimbuna 07-16-23 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2876616)
Russian airborne division threatens to revolt if Teplinsky is removed from his post.

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/...72872542773248

:yeah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp1v3fCevGg

Dargo 07-16-23 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2876611)
So what? Both events are not causally comparable.

And btw, if Ukraine continues to move at that pace, they will need another 8-9 months to reach the coast. Its just that their offensove cannot hold its breath that long. Nor can its soldiers. At the current rate, there will be no soldiers form ther attack brigades left in 8-9 months.

Okay, black humour off.

What counts is the total remaining strength of Ukraine and the current loss ratio. The rest is mathematics. Industrial war IS mathematics. Russia can afford high losses, Ukraine not so well. They feel the many lacks already now.

They need a decisive breakthrough within the next 4-6 weeks, I say. If by then they still linger around with only the outpost line before the first defence line, a new round of fixed trench warfare will begin, favouring Russia.

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I hope that Putin stays wehre he is, and stay salive. If he goes away in any way, the risk is that he will be replaced with somebody as brutal - but of more military competence. The last thing Ukraine needs is a competent military leader in the Kremlin, a new Shukov for example.

You are right they can not be compared the Russians had no 3 line of defenses to fight against only makes it worse for the Russians.

fithah4 07-17-23 12:32 AM

Kerch Bridge Struck Again !!
 
Kerch Bridge struck late Sunday night and news and video just starting to come out. Video shows expansion joints separated and on angle from each other.

Also new reports of 2 dead from actions.

NSFW , SALTY LANGUAGE AND VIDEO on " klw world news live "
Not sure if able to post link

Video shows multiple denations then large fire ball explosion.
Time stamp around 30 min mark for those interested.

fithah4 07-17-23 01:20 AM

From BBC
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66218869.amp

Writing on Telegram, Sergey Aksyonov, the head of the Russian administration in Crimea, said: "Traffic was stopped on the Crimean bridge. An emergency occurred in the area of ​​​​the 145th support from the [Russia side of the bridge].

"Measures are being taken to restore the situation. I ask residents and guests of the peninsula to refrain from traveling through the Crimean bridge and, for security reasons, choose an alternative land route through new regions."

This is how Russia refers to the Ukrainian territories it occupied last year - Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk and Donetsk - and claims to have annexed.

Route through new regions:hmmm::hmmm:

Video of car on bridge shows damage on Front of vehicle, no other vehicles involved and close to expansion joint like it was thrust vertical in air and then car rammed into bridge section.

Skybird 07-17-23 02:11 AM

Train traffic resumed after 5 hours again. Road bridge still closed.

Jimbuna 07-17-23 03:54 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWZ80sMJOAw

Jimbuna 07-17-23 04:20 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAquknNq5OI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GuDfRAh28w

Skybird 07-17-23 04:43 AM

The Kremlin does not extend the grain deal. This will have repercussions around the world.

The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has admitted that Russian counterattacks near Kharkiv have put Ukrainian forces on the defensive.

Another top Russian general has been deposed. At the same time, a Russian airborne brigade threatened to disobey orders if they did not get back their commander, who was previously deposed.

The damage to the bridge again does not look decisive. One of the two car lanes is interrupted. The other looks intact on photos (we do not know the static data). The railway bridge resumed normal operations already 5 hours after the attack. For logistical supplies, the trains most likely are far more essential then trucks. The flow of Russian tourists however has come to a halt. Maybe it was a Russian false flag operation to dissolve the 13km long tourist traffic jam they had a couple of days ago. :hmmm:

Jimbuna 07-17-23 06:47 AM

^ Putin reneging on the deal was to be expected and all he will achieve as a result will be to cause famine to countless thousands of people and ensure more governments who were undecided on who to support to turn against Russia.

His attempts at weaponising energy failed and so will his attempts at weaponising food.

I'd love to see the free world get together for once and say 'enough is enough' we will no longer take this behaviour any longer and reinforce 'food corridors' with the strong message 'Now pee or get off the pot'

Apologies for the crap source below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhFP7qJZ8f8

Skybird 07-17-23 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2876690)
^ Putin reneging on the deal was to be expected and all he will achieve as a result will be to cause famine to countless thousands of people and ensure more governments who were undecided on who to support to turn against Russia.

Will they? Countries representing 60% of world population refuse to side with the West against russia, and Latin ameic aand Africa en large show total desinterest in the war and opprutnistically do business with rsusia and Chian as they see fit.


I predict these countries will press for a "just peace deal" and end to the war, not caring one bit for the injustice suffered by Ukraine. The main actors India, Brazil and South Africa should serve you as a warning. There will be no global unification of resistence against russia, but more a trend of declaring Ukraine responsible for the famines. Take India. The French have just signed a big treaty for military deliveries, and headlines were printed saying that this marks an end of India's habit to buy weapons predominantly from Russia. Truth is that India still opportunistically buys oil from ussia and benefits from the - by now shrunk - price reductions Putin had to offer. India does what it always has done: refusing to take sides and choosing political actings that it thinks serves its interests best. Ukraine plays no role for it.

Jimbuna 07-17-23 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2876694)
Will they? Countries representing 60% of world population refuse to side with the West against russia, and Latin ameic aand Africa en large show total desinterest in the war and opprutnistically do business with rsusia and Chian as they see fit.


I predict these countries will press for a "just peace deal" and end to the war, not caring one bit for the injustice suffered by Ukraine. The main actors India, Brazil and South Africa should serve you as a warning. There will be no global unification of resistence against russia, but more a trend of declaring Ukraine responsible for the famines. Take India. The French have just signed a big treaty for military deliveries, and headlines were printed saying that this marks an end of India's habit to buy weapons predominantly from Russia. Truth is that India still opportunistically buys oil from ussia and benefits from the - by now shrunk - price reductions Putin had to offer. India does what it always has done: refusing to take sides and choosing political actings that it thinks serves its interests best. Ukraine plays no role for it.

"just peace deal" in other words not taking sides in favour of either country and "end to the war" both mean the same imho and yes there are more countries than just India taking advantage of Russian low price oil etc. long may it continue because hopefully that is all Russia will be able to trade for decades to come.


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