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Jimbuna 02-27-22 12:12 PM

BP to offload 19.75% stake in Russian state-owned oil firm Rosneft after Russia's "act of aggression in Ukraine"

mapuc 02-27-22 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2795865)
NATO have not shown or talk of aggressive intent but rather bolstered or are planning to bolster current troop positions in the eastern states as a direct result of a Russian military invasion into an adjoining country of the aforementioned NATO eastern members.

Sometimes I wonder if you believe the Russian propaganda rhetoric.

No I do not believe Russian propaganda or our news flow about Ukraine- I just try to figure out why Putin gave this order.

Is it as he said due to NATO being aggressive or due to something else ?

Markus

Andreas86 02-27-22 12:21 PM

While NATO is not currently aggressive in the form of direct military action, I would presume that the huge flow of weapons and equipment from NATO allied countries into Ukraine is taken as aggression in Russia.

Jeff-Groves 02-27-22 12:23 PM

Pretty much why Germany started sinking US Ships in WWII.
Lend lease.

Jimbuna 02-27-22 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2795872)
Pretty much why Germany started sinking US Ships in WWII.
Lend lease.

And we all know how that panned out :03:

Aktungbby 02-27-22 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2795294)
I was slightly wrong...we should be at DEFCON 1 and launch on Moscow now; and simply get on with Vlad's idea of history!

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2795863)
We must not forget why Putin has put his nuclear forces on higher alert-It's not because it go badly in Ukraine-It should be because of NATO's aggressive towards Russia.
Of course
Putin may as a last resort use small tactical 2-4 kiloton nukes in Ukraine-If he begin to lose the war.

Markus

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2795864)
Seems he's not doing so well right now.
Best head down to the blast shelters now if he's that Bat **** Crazy!
:o

I was hoping Biden would read my post...not Putin. That said, Hitler ordered the destruction of Germany's assets as the allies closed in; not carried out by Speer and other Nazis. Perhaps megalomaniac Putin, his troops having lost the Blitz in their multipronged Kreig, is thinking along the lines of a similar Götterdämmerung. His craving for respect among nations is seriously "gone a glimmering'...:hmmm:

Jimbuna 02-27-22 12:41 PM

The clip below is a little over five minutes long and despite the fact it is five years old next month simply change the names to some of those who are in power today and you have imho a dose of 'food for thought'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUBY6bMZn8w

UglyMowgli 02-27-22 12:41 PM

Canada just close it's airspace to Russian planes


EU C omission will buy and deliver weapons to Ukraine (a 1st in its history), also all EU members closed their respective airspace to Russia (no landing or take off), ban RT news and Sputnik,


Sweden will send 5000 AT4 anti tank rocket to Ukraine with rations, helmets and body armor.

mapuc 02-27-22 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas86 (Post 2795871)
While NATO is not currently aggressive in the form of direct military action, I would presume that the huge flow of weapons and equipment from NATO allied countries into Ukraine is taken as aggression in Russia.

And now you can count Denmark as part of NATO sending weapons to Ukraine.

2700 shoulder-bearing anti-tank missiles
300 Stinger missile system.

Denmark is as other NATO member sending defensive weapon to Ukraine-Not offensive. If you count air -to- air missile as offensive then NATO has sent both defensive and offensive weapon.

Markus

Onkel Neal 02-27-22 12:46 PM

Ya know, I think Putin will interpret all this sending of 6,000,000 anti tank rockets to Ukraine as Western interference. Looks like his bluff is being called. Hope it's just a bluff.... :hmmm:

Andreas86 02-27-22 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli (Post 2795882)
Canada just close it's airspace to Russian planes


EU C omission will buy and deliver weapons to Ukraine (a 1st in its history), also all EU members closed their respective airspace to Russia (no landing or take off), ban RT news and Sputnik,


Sweden will send 5000 AT4 anti tank rocket to Ukraine with rations, helmets and body armor.


Sweden just moved some steps up on Putins hitlist.. :o Thought they would stay out.

My girlfriend and I watched "The Day After" half a year ago. It is still a very sobering and gut wrenching movie. Didn't expect the current rhetoric between east and west in this age.. But still I am not surprised. Our safety "bubble" has been brutally bursted.

mapuc 02-27-22 12:56 PM

There's one thing in all this evilness I see as positive-Russia wants to negotiate with Ukraine.

Of course this positive thought could quickly become negative depending on what Russia comes up with in these negotiation.

I hope Russia has come to its senses and understand that they have done wrong.

Markus

Jimbuna 02-27-22 01:00 PM

Russia has destroyed the "Dream" the An-225 "Mria" ("A Dream" in Ukrainian)

Jeff-Groves 02-27-22 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2795877)
And we all know how that panned out :03:

Yep! A bunch of Mods for a Game that lets you play the Losers side!
:har:

Jimbuna 02-27-22 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2795894)
Yep! A bunch of Mods for a Game that lets you play the Losers side!
:har:

:haha::up:


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