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I'll give you a few.

1. Has brought in an outside auditor to go through the books, and is showing the American people just where their tax dollars are being wasted.

2.Illegal immigrants crossing the border has gone from a flood to a trickle (just by enforcing the laws already on the books.)

3. Has a very good chance of ending birthright citizenship.

4. Rolling back DEI initiatives and returning to merit as a basis for hiring, and promotions (particularly in Government)

5. Declaring cartels as terrorist organizations, which means that Military & National Intelligence assets can be used to better effect.

Gorpet

02-22-25 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2944854)

No, Putin wags the US-dog.

What the US under Trump does and tries to do to and with Ukraine, is a disgrace, and utmost shameful. History will remember this.

It seems as if Trump has the ambition to confirm every negative clichée about the capitalist evil USA that is even conceivable. The speed with which he is doing one strategically important favor after another for Russia without asking for anything in return defies description. I think the godlike worship of his followers has gone to his head and he is now completely stupid. Or age-related degeneration. All that junk food, and his age...

What is shameful is what the EU , And NATO have invested into Ukraine. Just metal and cloth. No meat. Get off your ass Quit talking about the United States and Donald Trump. Get your ass into the game and fight the war you wanted. Don't be a girly Union get in there !

Reece

02-22-25 10:34 PM

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Gorpet

02-22-25 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2945031)

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There have been many just like this. Nobody cares anymore. It is what it is. ok who is the guy setting at the desk ? Oh ok Elon, The man who is Teaching the corrupt politician and a vile country club. That there is a difference. He deserves a desk of his own. What so funny is the entire elected by the people "Government" didn't have a clue what was going on for years. And it just took 1 man who knows how to really run a business to expose the Politician. And open the can of worms that may encompass the "Great" that are not so Great. And the bubble of Elitism will explode and b

vienna

02-23-25 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2945017)

Well whether they come off or not, Donald Trump will be President till 2029. Hope you are entertained. I will be.

I'm not disputing he'll be a carbuncle on the butt of the US, but I believe he'll be a PINO, aPresifent In Name Only; by the time Inaguration Dsy 2029 rolls around, we'll all be glad to see and hear of Trump in the Oval Office no more; perhaps some of thoe deferred legal actions against him will resurface, maybe in addition to what ever other felonies he can commit between now and 2029...

...and yes I will be entertained; here he's barely one month in and already SCOUTUS is denying his bid for almighty power, the Muskstone Kops are falling all over themselves, judges are ruling against him at all levels, and the bulk of the public opinion polls show him shedding popularity points at a rate not seen before; it won't be long before he'll be so hamstrung, he'll just have to pathetically limp through the remainder of his term fulfilling the apt description of "lame duck"; so I expect to have a lot to entertain and amuse me until 2029...

...and the MAGA tears will be delicious...

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vienna

02-23-25 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2945031)

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Actually, when I was watching that bizarre Press Conference where President Musk held forth while Trump basically sulked at his desk, I kinda got the impression the only near-adult in that room was the 4 year old kid picking his nose...

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Gorpet

02-23-25 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2945044)

Your so typical, But the fact is you had Kamala, And i will leave it there.

Gorpet

02-23-25 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2945045)

Is that the best ya can do. ? Roger ram Jet.

vienna

02-23-25 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2945046)

Your so typical, But the fact is you had Kamala, And i will leave it there.

You can be so wrong its amusing; I'm not a Democrat, so I had no political favoring of Harris, although I did vote for her because, ya know, that whole 'lesser of two evils' thing; that and how she showed up Trump at that one debate they had; small wonder Trump was too scared to go for a second round...

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vienna

02-23-25 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2945047)

Is that the best ya can do. ? Roger ram Jet.

Oh, I am mortally wounded! How can I possibly survive such witty repartee; Bernard Shaw would be envious of your rapier style...

...but thank you for giving me a good laugh...

...and the comment about the nose-picking four year old would apply to your response...

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Catfish

02-23-25 05:34 AM

re the reasons Trump should stay in office ..

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Originally Posted by MaDef (Post 2945023)

I'll give you a few. [...]

I even agree with some, just not the unnecessary bullying and grandstanding with what he tries to cover his insecurity and stupidity.
I certainly do not agree with Musk as an "outside editor" who is on drugs, has no experience, does not know what he's doing but glad to evade taxes just like the one who brought him there. But it's your inner-american ride, so enjoy.
I agree with "declaring cartels as terrorist organizations, which means that Military & National Intelligence assets can be used to better effect."
I doubt it was Trump's idea, this was long overdue. But he did it, so ok.

What I am absolutely not ok with is making Russia great again and trample on allies. Trump obviously never read anything from Brzezinski when it comes to international relations and planning. His entourage consists of yes-men that echo him just to remain in office, no real advisors with any backbone left.
:salute:

u crank

02-23-25 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2945044)

...and the MAGA tears will be delicious...

Telling us that the President's party will lose seats in the midterms is like saying the sun will come up every morning. It's nothing new and quite predictable. As to your other predictions well you have been wrong before so I will take a wait and see approach to them. But it is good to see you are keeping a brave face. I think for the moment that is all you have.

Ostfriese

02-23-25 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2945052)

re the reasons Trump should stay in office ..

I certainly do not agree with Musk as an "outside editor" who is on drugs, has no experience, does not know what he's doing but glad to evade taxes just like the one who brought him there. But it's your inner-american ride, so enjoy.

Murks's so "successful" that he has to list a plethora of programs that actually ended on Dec 31st, 2024, as his successes, and he vastly overstates the sums.
Oh, and of course none of the "saved" money will end in the hands of the people. :)

Dargo

02-23-25 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese (Post 2945060)

...
Oh, and of course none of the "saved" money will end in the hands of the people. :)

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Dargo

02-23-25 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2945035)

Jim, It's about Democracy and our country and its people have spoken...,.What is the problem ? Oh is there a different Democracy in the UK ? Are there different Democracy's across the Planet ? Certainly there is one in Ukraine. I think the UK should, stand for Democracy and follow it's new Prime Minister Keir Starmer. Don't bend the knee to Donald Trump and the United States, after all you are a member of NATO.The most feared Alliance that the planet has ever known...Democracy has brought the entire planet to near Extinction. And will wipe out every culture that doesn't bend the knee to their future. Is Donald Trump a part of that no. He could be but he is not.
Isn't the UK a society built around a socialist idea for a country after the war? And the elite somehow survived and got rid of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill. At the first opportunity? Of course they did. And today years later, Britain lays broken across the knee of The United States...The Muslim and Indian countries that were part of your Empire and any port your ships docked at.Today you will accept the young men from these countries into your society. If you want Democracy, Your young men must step away and carry the guilt, of the Politician whose daughter they will never touch.

There are many different forms of democracy. Some nations like Sweden have only a single House of Representatives. Others like the Netherlands have a House of Representatives and a senate. Both these forms occur without a president (Denmark with a house and Italy with house and senate) or with a president (Finland with a house and France with house and senate). Some nations have an electoral system that is partly indirect, with deputies rather than voters electing a representative. In Germany, for example, the directly elected deputies elect the indirectly elected president. Representative democracy is the term for representatives chosen through a selection process. This is the case in most countries in the West.

Basic forms:

Direct democracy.
Representative democracy. Variants:
- Consensus democracy.
- Deliberative democracy.
- Demarchy.
- Lottocracy.
- Participatory democracy.

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