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THE_MASK 05-14-18 01:29 PM

China is up to something .

vienna 05-14-18 01:37 PM

I still think Xi is striving to make Trump's meet with Kim as much of a 'non-event' as possible, denying Trump anything of significant political value, internationally or domestically...











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Rockstar 05-14-18 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sober (Post 2552992)
China is up to something .

Ya think? ;)

The greatest victory is that which requires no battle. - Sun Tzu

http://www.atimes.com/article/what-c...m-north-korea/

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Beijing's desire for stability has played a bigger role than recognized in Kim Jong-un's volte-face decision to negotiate his nuclear position By Bertil Lintner May 7, 2018 3:17 PM (UTC+8)


... Stronger economic links between the South and North would serve China’s strategic interest of stability on the peninsula. At the same time, China wants to maintain and expand its influence over the North Korean regime, which recent events demonstrate that it still has. A détente between the North and South would also give China a chance to drive a wedge between Washington and Seoul.

South Korea has stated that it wants US troops to stay, but if there is a peace treaty there would no longer be any excuse to maintain them or the THAAD deployment to protect against North Korean missiles. Maintaining THAAD after a peace deal would give Beijing ammunition to call America’s bluff and claim that THAAD was part of an attempt to encircle China. THAAD is a contentious issue in South Korea. When Moon came to power he put the deployment of four additional THAAD launchers on hold. He moved ahead with their deployment only after North Korea’s July 2017 test launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching mainland America.

In the long run, the broader question of why the US would have to maintain troops in South Korea would inevitably be an issue if a peace treaty was signed between the two Koreas. And if a peace treaty is not forged, somebody — most likely the US — would be blamed for intransigence. Seen from that perspective, China and North Korea may emerge as bigger winners than the US if the upcoming talks achieve less than many now anticipate and hope.

Reece 05-14-18 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sober (Post 2552992)
China is up to something .

Definitely, and not good imo.:yep:
Great to see you are still sober!:up:

em2nought 05-15-18 12:52 AM

Empires rise and fall :03:

https://velvetescape.com/wp-content/...rians-Wall.jpg

Jimbuna 05-15-18 05:26 AM

Can't say I trust China any more than NK.

Mr Quatro 05-15-18 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2552994)
I still think Xi is striving to make Trump's meet with Kim as much of a 'non-event' as possible, denying Trump anything of significant political value, internationally or domestically...


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Admit it vienna you've been wrong before :hmmm:

This peace thingy is going to happen ... Kim wants his country to enjoy prosperity and open a Mcdonald's restaurant too :D

Trump will come home a hero and win the Nobel peace prize and then get kicked out of office by Mueller's investigation team.

Warning: I also have been wrong before :o

vienna 05-15-18 04:15 PM

"This peace thingy is going to happen"....

Well, maybe, maybe not:


North Korea threatens to cancel summit with Trump over military drills --

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.e1b8b02f5481


North Korea Postpones Talks With South, Hinting Kim-Trump Summit Is in Peril --

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/w...nes-talks.html


Trump may wind up all dressed up with no place to go...

This kind of leaves the optics as Trump and the US being the cause of the possible cancellation if Trump persists in continuing with the exercises, maybe not a fair characterization, but its the one that NK & CN will push internationally. Now, let's see in Donny takes the bait...










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Jimbuna 05-16-18 06:11 AM

It sounds to me like NK want to keep those weapons it already has but may be willing to cease production of any additional weapons :hmmm:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44134910

Reece 05-16-18 06:21 AM

Yeh so much for Kim's denuclearization, keep the sanctions going guys!!:salute:

vienna 05-16-18 12:32 PM

I'm still absolutely sure Trump won't get the Nobel Peace Prize this year...










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Skybird 05-16-18 05:47 PM

Diplomacy is war with other means.

vienna 05-16-18 07:15 PM

I thought Diplomacy was the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way such as they would look forward to the trip...












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u crank 05-16-18 07:19 PM

Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock.

-Will Rogers

Reece 05-16-18 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2553272)
I thought Diplomacy was the art of telling someone to go to hell in a way such as they would look forward to the trip...

:yep:


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