My guess is that some of the Cabinet will want to get the Withdrawal Agreement Bill through Parliament and others will want a General Election.

It is my understandign that Johnson cannot enforce elections all by himself, or can he? Labour said yes to elections, but whether they mean it, is somethign totally different. They must know what to expect from elections, and they cannot like it. Also, their current position of just delaying and putting the PM under pressure, is most comfortable for them.

Please?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50095368

" [...] the government lost by just 16 votes, by 322 to 306. It was due to be followed by a vote on the main government motion - whether or not to back the deal. But the motion, as amended, was approved by MPs without a vote, as the government effectively accepted defeat."

Whatever, it was done by ministers of parliamant, not Bercow's decision.

Rather than type an essay in response to your question regarding an election I'll choose the easy/lazy route and post a link to all the options below :03:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49004486

All options are explained from about half way down.

And there you have it, it seems:


"Labour says it will support an early election, but only once the risk of a no deal Brexit is "off the table."



If the WAB is retreated by Johnson, as he threatened, there is no banning of a risk of no-deal-Brexit. And if the WAB gets puished through parliament and accoridng legislation would be - or would have been - accepted as well, then the new trade negotiatiosn with thte EU possibly could end in no result within any timeframe anyway, again then meaning: no deal Brexit.


Whatever the scenario is - Labour cna always choose to claim that there is no banning of the risk of no-deal brexit, and therefore not supporting early elections, referring to its own words.


This is if the inkpissing and paragraphriding and hairsplitting is put too such extremes as it is common today everywhere. The form commands over the content it should serve. Mess must be the consequence.


And I have started to loose the ability to keep track of all the possible outcomes and implications.


I was wrong when saiyng this war is over and the new war is abotu to beging. There will not come a new war, as I called it, because the old one will never end. I still underestimated the determination to conspire against a productive proceeding in steps and decisions.



If they keep playing it this way, there will be no elections before 2022.



Gordian knots do not get untangled. They do get cut through. And that requires force. Else the UK and to serious degrees the eU economy will suffocate in self-paralysis. its not as if the EU suffers a lack of relevance in the world (or the UK all alone by itself). And the challenges in the world do not grow slower. None of us can afford to endure this paralysis going on year for year.

The SNP and Lib Dems are in favour of an election after 31st October so it may well not matter what Steptoe thinks and wants.

The SNP on the grounds that they will win an even greater number of seats therefore strengthening their position on an independence referendum and the Lib Dems on the grounds that the electorate are getting so fed up of the whole situation they may prefer the Lib Dems current policy of revoking Article 50.

My own suspicion being that the electorate have witnessed Boris trying his best against the odds and may well put a majority Tory government in power to put an end to this debacle one way or the other.

The Letvin amendement did not vote on the proposal, but delayed voting on it until amended cinditojns are met. After that result, Johnson withdrew his proosal - and so there was no vote on it held. Bercow now argued that the Letvon amendement was a voting on what it did not vote on for sure, which is why I see his decison as biased and corrupted. And many others see it this way as well. Johnson just complied to tradition, politeness and language formalities afterwards.



They did not vote on Johnsons proposals. instead they said they will not vote on it until certain condtions are met.

This email is only a few minutes old and is from one of my not so favourite people in Steptoes gang.

DELETED!!

https://translate.google.de/translat...ut-gepokert%2F


On Ireland and Irish interests.

PM says he will give MPs more time to debate Brexit deal but only if they agree to 12 December general election.

The eyes of the people are all on Steptoe now and Boris has played his ace.

"You said you wanted an election weeks ago but turned the deal down because of the three day debate deadline. Here is the lengthy timeframe you want so what do you say now about an election?"

The above quotes are of my making but Steptoe now has a choice in what decision to come to or he will have turned down/rejected all options even when his initial objections has been taken away.

Me thinks now is the time to pee or get off the pot.

Oh and btw the initial objection to the original three day debate time and the call for a longer debate is Steptoes lot tactic to come up with an amendment to the bill on offer which will include a second referendum.

You read it here first :salute:

FAT CHANCE.

Labour will not bite and many tories don't want it.

I would have said, Go away.

What a bloody cheek that email was you got jim.

Probably my fault because I didn't unsubscribe after I left the party.

To that party under the leadership of that madman stop stop sending me emails.

Big Jim


There you go jim short and sweet. :)

If I'm to be totally honest I consider them to have an element of entertainment value.