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Jeff-Groves 02-18-25 09:07 PM

Glad you quoted that. Saves me the trouble of saving such a whack-a-doodle statement.

Gorpet 02-18-25 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shearwater (Post 2944313)
Someone once told me that there is a fallacy common to a lot of highly intelligent people: "I am good at one thing, therefore I must be good at everything."

Musk is admittedly very good at making money, running big companies, keeping himself in public discourse etc.
He seems to be a successful businessman, and he likes to see his country run like a business. (With Trump, it's even more obvious).
The idea that a country should be run like a successful business seems attractive to a whole lot of people - only, running a country and running a business aren't the same thing.

Well, What are you good at ?

Buddahaid 02-18-25 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2944336)
My statement stands.

Really. Are you retired or expect to retire? Why should a government run like a business care what happens to you when you quit?

August 02-18-25 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944339)
Really. Are you retired or expect to retire? Why should a government run like a business care what happens to you when you quit?


Quit what? Being a citizen? Because the government is in the business of serving and protecting it's citizens. A service industry that would certainly benefit from good business practices like fiscal responsibility.

Buddahaid 02-18-25 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2944341)
Quit what? Being a citizen? Because the government is in the business of serving and protecting it's citizens. A service industry that would certainly benefit from good business practices like fiscal responsibility.

Exactly, and that government shouldn't be making a profit off of its citizens like businesses strive for profit.

The whole concept of a government run like a business is BS. Fiscal responsibility comes down to people calling anything that doesn't benefit them personally waste.

Commander Wallace 02-18-25 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944344)
Exactly, and that government shouldn't be making a profit off of its citizens like businesses strive for profit.

The whole concept of a government run like a business is BS. Fiscal responsibility comes down to people calling anything that doesn't benefit them personally waste.


You're so full of it. By making a profit, do you mean the Democrats Fleecing The American Public to enrich themselves ?

* Edit * When we talk about about running operations like a business, it is about a table of organization, generating and performing a cost / benefit analysis, opportunity costs and balancing of Interests to name just a few parameters to yield the best results within a given budget. These applications apply to Businesses and Government as part of any analysis. Everyone in positions like these " crunch numbers." Squandering resources are never profitable and that's a big reason the U.S is in the position it finds itself in right now with regards to our debt. Therefore these principals are applicable in Business and Government.

So let's get this out on the table. Are we to assume you're in favor of transgender Operas in various countries financed by the U.S taxpayer ? Do we understand correctly that you're in favor of our money going to foreign Countries and entities for nebulous causes like DEI initiatives ? Is so, that explains why you're in the minority and why your contemptible Democrats lost the Presidency and both Chambers of Congress. The American People are done with that. Get over it and move on.

August 02-18-25 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944344)
Exactly, and that government shouldn't be making a profit off of its citizens like businesses strive for profit.

The whole concept of a government run like a business is BS. Fiscal responsibility comes down to people calling anything that doesn't benefit them personally waste.


Quit focusing on just one aspect of some businesses. Not all businesses strive for profit. Ever heard of a "non-profit" business? I've done work for several over the years, nice folks with a mission. When people talk about running government like a business they mean in terms of organization, fiscal responsibility, efficiency. Don't tell me that those things are BS.

Gorpet 02-18-25 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944339)
Really. Are you retired or expect to retire? Why should a government run like a business care what happens to you when you quit?

So, What you are saying, it's all about if you quit a job. Ok If you quit, your on your own on to find a new job. The government is run like a business and it's about who can buy in. It doesn't care, and guess what if that new college education leaves you in the dumps.There are still those Obama shovel ready jobs waiting for hands to rebuild America.

Reece 02-18-25 11:07 PM

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Gorpet 02-18-25 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2944350)
So, What you are saying, it's all about if you quit a job. Ok If you quit, your on your own on to find a new job. The government is run like a business and it's about who can buy in. It doesn't care, and guess what if that new college education leaves you in the dumps.There are still those Obama shovel ready jobs waiting for hands to rebuild America.

Oh Hell, forget rebuild America, We need every soul that believes in Democracy.
To find a way to Ukraine,They need War fighters and it is time for all those who believe and want a free Ukraine to join now today.Do not be afraid. A call out to the American youth, your parents started this,War come and help finish it... Join the new European Legion . It's time for all those who believe to get off their a..ss And join the Spear Brigade that will cut through Ukraine to the front lines and achieve glory in the history books ... after all aren't we invincible ?

Buddahaid 02-18-25 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2944349)
Quit focusing on just one aspect of some businesses. Not all businesses strive for profit. Ever heard of a "non-profit" business? I've done work for several over the years, nice folks with a mission. When people talk about running government like a business they mean in terms of organization, fiscal responsibility, efficiency. Don't tell me that those things are BS.

Some do and some have no idea, and then many have good intentions but have no idea what a cut in this place means to others like cutting USAID as an America first idea hurts US farmers and everything their businesses purchase from other businesses. It's not simple and then there's the idea of soft diplomacy that appears to be beyond MAGA to understand.

Yeah, I'm just as full of it as most of MAGA is.

Gorpet 02-19-25 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=Buddahaid;2944355]Some do and some have no idea, and then many have good intentions but have no idea what a cut in this place means to others like cutting USAID as an America first idea hurts US farmers and everything their businesses purchase from other businesses. It's not simple and then there's the idea of soft diplomacy that appears to be beyond MAGA to understand.


Ok,You have to be a lunatic. USAID What is so scary? If farmers are involved,Then the American people need to know, After all somebody wants us to start eating bugs. And i will tell you now, Me and my hungry belly buddies are not going to eat bugs.And you and your kind can take that any way you want. If end the end you are Dirty, Then to jail you must go.Democracy demands it.clearing out the old **** to bring in the new. Only the new will get a Bullitt instead of a vote. American Democracy. One of a kind.

MaDef 02-19-25 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944330)
No, it doesn't. Businesses are for the good of the business while governments are supposed to be for the good of the people.

in a general sense yes, but when you start stealing from & pissing off the majority of the people. you're doing something wrong.

AVGWarhawk 02-19-25 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2944339)
Really. Are you retired or expect to retire? Why should a government run like a business care what happens to you when you quit?

Does any business care if you quit? Does a business have to make the hard decisions and lay off/fire/downsize? So does the government. The hard decision and reality of the federal government is they can't continue to carry the overabundance of federal employees. Those screwing the pooch while on the clock. The books are not balanced. The company is the red and getting redder. In the real world this is the reality of the everyday schmo grinding all week. It should be the same for the federal government. Balance the books. Watch the investments(et al SS). Make the hard decision to fire/layoff/downsize. Yes, in this instance the government needs to be run like a business. No hard feelings. It is just business, right?

To answer your question, yes, I'm retiring in 2-3 with good behavior. Did I base my retirement on SS as part of my retirem

u crank 02-19-25 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2944400)
Somewhere a 300 year old great, great, great, great grandmother is getting her SS cut off. Shame on you Elon.

Kinda funny. You catch someone stealing your money and they are mad at you instead of the thief. I don't understand that thinking.


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