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STEED 09-24-19 07:32 AM

All the opposition calling for Bojo to resign will not wash with him. I bet he will stay put, bet MayBot is laughing all the way.

JUST IN..

Bojo is staying put, so the call will now have to be table a motion against him, over to the opposition it's your move.


Can not see much more today so we can all stand down to relax mode.

MGR1 09-24-19 09:46 AM

A few observations:


1: The Lib Dem decison about not calling another EU Ref:

This simplifies their position in Scotland as they've always maintained that there should not be another Scottish Indyref. Saying yes to an EU referendum was undercutting their position on Scottish Independence.

Swinson is Scottish, after all.

2: Todays legal ruling:

Obviously a case of "the law is a horse/donkey hybrid" when it disagrees with your personal viewpoint.

Tough - we are all subject to the Law, even the Prime Minister.

3: This current mess wouldn't be so bad if, following the EU Referendum result, the Conservatives had decided to make the process a cross party effort rather than a Tory only affair.

You can only move forward when you build a consensus across society. If you can't, or won't, do that then your screwed.

Mike.:hmmm:

Jimbuna 09-24-19 10:03 AM

Point 3 is 100% down to May imho.

Skybird 09-24-19 10:15 AM

Full broadside from a crew with a history in both Marxism and Libertarianism (according to German Wikipedia, whioch I consulted because the website was unknown to me). What a strange combo. :D


https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/0...nny-of-judges/

em2nought 09-24-19 10:34 AM

Trump should start some lend-lease to the Brexit side. :D

JU_88 09-24-19 10:35 AM

I think its fine the Libdems take their Forced Remain /scrap Article 50 stance,
Just as its fine for the Brexit Party to adopt the
No Deal & hard Brexit stance.
That kind of stance is actually quite ballsy and high risk, but it just makes it clearer for voters.

If either actually won a GE with parliamentary majority on that platform, then they would have a democratic mandate to do it to too.
Pretty unlikely in either case though.

Jimbuna 09-24-19 11:01 AM

Quote:

it just makes it clearer for voters
Precisely!!

No more excuses, the next general election will hopefully decide everything definitively.

Jimbuna 09-24-19 11:04 AM

Lady Hale: Five things you need to know about the Supreme Court president.

No.5 being by far the most interesting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49812379

Catfish 09-24-19 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2628844)
Full broadside from a crew with a history in both Marxism and Libertarianism (according to German Wikipedia, whioch I consulted because the website was unknown to me). What a strange combo. :D

Marxism and libertarianism wow :)
Funded by the David Koch foundation, some good background:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...och-foundation
Whatever it once was, it seems to be pretty right-wing now https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/spiked-magazine/

Catfish 09-24-19 12:18 PM

Looks like OT here now, but the giant Cook Travels is bankrupt? :o
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1W80V4
https://www.traveldailymedia.com/tho...krupt-but-why/

Jimbuna 09-24-19 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2628867)

Closed yesterday morning Kai after failing to raise £200 million, the government having refused to bail them out for the short term.

Weird thing is it'll cost £600 million to repatriate everyone.

Jimbuna 09-24-19 01:19 PM

Just in via email.

Quote:

Dear Jim,

This is an extraordinary and precarious moment in our country's history.

A Prime Minister found to have acted illegally. A political party that protects the establishment, pretending to be anti-establishment. The born-to-rule Tories claiming to be the voice of the people.

Boris Johnson thinks he's above us all. He is not fit to be Prime Minister. This crisis can only be settled with a General Election.

The Labour government I lead will take on those who really run our country: the financial speculators, tax dodgers and big polluters. We will take them on so the real wealth creators, the people of this country, can have the jobs, services and futures they deserve.

It's Labour that will put more money in your pocket, rather than lining the pockets of the multi-millionaires.

Boris Johnson and his wealthy friends are not only on the side of the establishment, they are the establishment. His party's election campaign will be swimming in cash. But we've got something Boris Johnson doesn't have: people. People in their hundreds of thousands from across Britain.

Today I'm asking you to take the next step. Don't sit on the sidelines while our country is taken for a ride by Boris Johnson and the super-rich. Hundreds of thousands of people are standing up to demand a country for the many – why not become one of them?

Jim, I want you to join the biggest people-powered campaign this country has ever seen. Will you become a member of the Labour Party now?

Real politics is about empowering people who don't have a lot of money, and don't have friends in high places, so they can take control of their lives. It's time we asked those at top to pay their fair share.

Labour is a democratic party that trusts the people.

Labour will redesign the system to serve public health not private wealth. We will bring rail, mail, water and the national grid into public ownership so these services are run for the public, not for profit. We will scrap zero-hours contracts and pay a £10 living wage. It's time we started building a country fit for the next generation.

When Labour wins, the nurse wins. The pensioner wins. The student wins, the office worker wins, and the engineer wins. We all win.

I will be – I promise you this – a very different kind of Prime Minister. I want to put the government on your side. Our philosophy is to empower people, not just to invest power in politicians.

The tide is turning. Together we'll take on the privileged and put the people into power.

Thank you.

Signed, Jeremy Corbyn MP, Leader of the Labour Party

Jeremy Corbyn
Leader of the Labour Party
Wouldn't you think someone would be checking the membership details and come to the obvious conclusion that I left the party the day after Steptoe was elected? :nope:

Catfish 09-24-19 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2628868)
Closed yesterday morning Kai after failing to raise £200 million, the government having refused to bail them out for the short term.
Weird thing is it'll cost £600 million to repatriate everyone.

As if England and the UK hadn't already enough going on at this time :nope:

JU_88 09-24-19 02:54 PM

Oh god, when hear about political conspiracies of the 'Koch brothers' or 'George Soros', that's when I know its usually time to tune out.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...at-160x160.png

Jimbuna 09-25-19 04:09 AM

The mad house otherwise known as Parliament reopens today and I should imagine the pressure on the PM will be at an unprecedented level,

Surely the only option now is for a general election to be carried out so the people can decide on our next course of action.


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