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Rockstar 02-26-22 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2795572)
I for once does not have any military skills I just follow the news and it says Russia has huge problem taking control over Ukraine and its Capital Kyiv.


Markus

They just might have problem, I’m thinking of the video of that babushka scolding the Russian soldier and how he was still very respectful, almost ashamed. Such attitudes may be a problem for Putin’s goals if his soldiers can’t take up arms against fellow Slavs. But if there was ever finer example why former Warsaw Pact members were chomping at the bits to leave Russian influence and join NATO, this is it.

The crazies are the Russian separatists, like religious zealots they kill and terrorize without remorse for their cause.

Skybird 02-26-22 01:17 PM

International pressure starts to break German resistance. Since a few minutes it is said that Germany will deliver 1000 ATGMs and Panzerfäuste from BW reserves plus 500 Stingers to Ukraine. Its just on the TV main news.

The Germans now also are completely isolated over SWIFT and start a last desperate attempt to save their interests. This night they will have a telephone conference with the US, France and some others over an exclusion "lite" of Russia from SWIFT, banning only a few Russian banks, but allowing others to operate so that Germany could transfer payments for gas deliveries by Russia.

I am stunned! So the Germans seem to think that Russia will not take revenge and will kindly cooperate in keeping German living rooms warm and cozy, and they also seem to think that in this way German payments for gas will not finance the Russian war machine any longere? Have I got this right...? I must be dreaming!

I hope the German diplomacy gets another bloody nose over its crazy idea of "SWIFT exclusion lite".

Those ATGMs and SAMs must be brought on the move quickly now.

Armistead 02-26-22 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2795582)
A thought

Denmark, France and other European countries has said they will send defensive weapon to Ukraine and medical equipment.

Aren't we so to say indirectly supporting one of the part in the war and thous taking part in the war ?

As Putin had warned us-If we take part in the war the response would be...

Markus

Certainly where it's going to get interesting, tho both sides have done this for decades, Russian weapons have killed 1000's of American soldiers in numerous conflicts that were ongoing, vice versa. Obviously our weapons will go through 3rd parties, Poland, Denmark, other smuggling in. We've seen this coming since March, it's shameful so much of NATO wouldn't send or resisted sending a mass of weapons that would be useful, mainly drones. I think we all agree sovereign nations have the right of self determination, but it must suck to be one in a buffer zone between NATO and Russia Cold war issues.

Jeff-Groves 02-26-22 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2795610)
They just might have problem, I’m thinking of the video of that babushka scolding the Russian soldier and how he was still very respectful, almost ashamed.

That Soldier I almost respect. I say 'almost' only because He didn't Gun Butt her in the video. He gave me the impression he didn't want to be there at all.

Rockstar 02-26-22 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2795611)
International pressure starts to break German resistance. Since a few minutes it is said that Germany will deliver 1000 ATGMs and Panzerfäuste from BW reserves plus 500 Stingers to Ukraine. Its just on the TV main news.

The Germans now also are completely isolated over SWIFT and start a last desperate attempt to save their interests. This night they will have a telephone conference with the US, France and some others over an exclusion "lite" of Russia from SWIFT, banning only a few Russian banks, but allowing others to operate so that Germany could transfer payments for gas deliveries by Russia.

I am stunned! So the Germans seem to think that Russia will not take revenge and will kindly cooperate in keeping German living rooms warm and cozy, and they also seem to think that in this way German payments for gas will not finance the Russian war machine any longere? Have I got this right...? I must be dreaming!

I hope the German diplomacy gets another bloody nose over its crazy idea of "SWIFT exclusion lite".

Those ATGMs and SAMs must be brought on the move quickly now.



https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...pons-bild.html

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who not only refused to supply Ukraine with weapons but also for weeks banned NATO and EU members from supplying German-made weapons to Kyiv, is reconsidering his position.
That's according to the German news site Bild, Ukrinform reports.

Citing government circles, the report claims that the federal government has allowed the Netherlands to hand over 400 Panzerfaust rocket-propelled grenade launchers to the Ukrainian military, which it supplied to the Netherlands in the past.

Berlin also gave Estonia permission to supply old GDR-era armored howitzers to Ukraine.

If any country wants to export German-made weapons to third countries, it must get the green light from Germany.

With regard to arms supplies from Germany, the government's position remains unchanged.

However, according to the tabloid, Germany wants to supply 14 armored vehicles and 10,000 tonnes of fuel to Ukraine.

Earlier reports said that Ukraine had provided Germany with a list of necessary weapons and equipment. However, only 5,000 helmets have been provided to the Ukrainian side so far, which have not been delivered to the country for a long time.


The little opportunist weasels. Wonder who had to pressure Germans to side with our alliance rather than the Russians and Chinese.

Jeff-Groves 02-26-22 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2795620)

You little opportunist weasels.

You know those Weasels are probably involved hoping for rewards.
Here's what they deserve!
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...3493?s=594x594

Rockstar 02-26-22 02:04 PM

People fighting and dying for their survival, sovereignty and self determination. Germans just complain about how cold their homes are. My advice to weasels send arms, buy more blankets.

Jimbuna 02-26-22 02:08 PM

Protests held around UK in support of Ukraine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60536064

Jeff-Groves 02-26-22 02:08 PM

My advise would be don't bother buying more blankets.
A sheet will cover your body just fine.

mapuc 02-26-22 02:08 PM

Russia is going to get it right-It will take a longer time than expected-sad to say. The Russian military is overwhelming over Ukrainian strength.

Ukrainian have won the propaganda war.

Markus

Jimbuna 02-26-22 02:10 PM

Chelsea's Russian owner Roman Abramovich says he is "giving trustees of Chelsea's charitable foundation the stewardship and care" of the club.

August 02-26-22 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2795622)
You know those Weasels are probably involved hoping for rewards.
Here's what they deserve!
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...3493?s=594x594


To be hung by the nazis for being cowards? :doh:

Jimbuna 02-26-22 02:12 PM

LIVE: War in Ukraine | View of Maidan square in #Kyiv, #War_in_Ukraine, after #Russian_invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOlbyB7aW4

Jeff-Groves 02-26-22 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2795628)
Chelsea's Russian owner Roman Abramovich says he is "giving trustees of Chelsea's charitable foundation the stewardship and care" of the club.

I'd lock that **** down so not a drop of money could be moved!

Jimbuna 02-26-22 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2795631)
I'd lock that **** down so not a drop of money could be moved!

Aye :yep:


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