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Heretic

02-16-10 11:25 AM

Sadly, the wild claims of doom, conspiracy theories, and general rudeness and condescending attitude of some of the more vocal critics has actually softened my attitude towards the DRM. :cry:

flag4

02-16-10 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980 (Post 1269518)

Hi there,

im realy suprised that so many people are upset. For myself, i already preordered silent hunter 5. Why should i cancel my preorder because of this DRM? I will open the game, install it and than play right away, my router is connected 24/7 anway and i think about 90% of all people have a permament connection too.

So, where is the drawback? i buy this game to have fun, because i love submarine games and i am able to play it...thats the only thing i want.

Only problem that i could see is that to many people are buying it and that the server will crash because of it.

i would say after 2-3 days the server will run 100% stable.

i just hope that we are able to chat in some global chat...because all people are connected to Ubi anyway...wouldnt this rock?! Chat with other people while you are sailing around! brag about your newest kill! :D

i also think that this copy proctection is a good way to go, its virtually not crackable, because the game needs an active connection to a server to work

Edit: And no, i dont work for Ubisoft lol :haha:

i know this may sound simplistic, but; can you imagine having to phone to the bookshop every time you wanted to turn the page of a book you have bought.

i dont want to chat with lots of people. i want to play my game when i like - on my own usually.

plus, i dont want my information saved somewhere else. my saved games are mine, they belong to me - with me, on my pc. i'm sorry but there is a deeper concern running thru all this for me. and one i will not rant on about here:woot:

but hey!! the game looks lovely, maybe things will change:hmmm:

Letum

02-16-10 11:27 AM

If you wouldn't mind showing a receipt to prove your not a criminal
every time you turn on your telly, then online DRM won't bother you.

If your 100% sure ubisoft won't go the way of previous big names like
looking glass studios, then online DRM won't bother you.

If your 100% sure Ubisoft won't turn off the servers before you finish
wanting to use the game (because they will one day, even if it's a long
way off), online DRM won't bother you.

And finally, if renting a game indefinably and owning a game are the
same thing to you, online DRM won't bother you.

Otherwise, you may want to reconsider your order.

piri_reis

02-16-10 11:28 AM

The box at amazon also has "PC - DVD - ONLINE" printed.
Oh maybe it is a massive multiplayer/cooperative WW2 subsim?..
How useless statements.

I hope they'll have to reprint those boxes and manuals and everything when this thing blows up.

tater

02-16-10 11:36 AM

It's interesting that every single "what's so bad about DRM" or "DRM works great for me in all kinds of games!" posts are people with no post count.

Just sayin'.

If you're not a paid employee of DRM Corp™ please excuse this comment (and wlcome!).

Letum

02-16-10 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1269414)

Here in the UK? Refund, no problem. Even if it's bought through Steam or any other company who say they don't give refunds.

Yup, OLC is right.

If you buy anything in the UK and have any reason not to be happy with
it, you can return it for a refund; whatever the end user agreement is.

ichso

02-16-10 11:39 AM

Having to be online to play is a bad thing in my oppinion.
I mean, assuming that it works well right now, it would be fine for now.
But sometimes you want to install one of your really old games and put some good hours into it. Websites from many old games aren't serviced anymore and that makes me fear that SH5 Servers won't be running as long as necessary.
I mean, if somebody wants to play it again in 6 years or so, are the servers still running ? If not, then there will hopefully be some kind of legacy patch that makes the game locally playable, without internet connection.

Safe-Keeper

02-16-10 11:43 AM

Quote:

i know this may sound simplistic, but; can you imagine having to phone to the bookshop every time you wanted to turn the page of a book you have bought.

No, I can't, because us readers don't steal books at a rate of 9:10. If, for every tenth book that was sold in a book store, nine books were shoplifted, you could bet your butt that the book store industry would go to drastic lengths to restrict your ability to shoplift books.

razark

02-16-10 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper (Post 1269561)

Umm...

How do you fit libraries into that?

Brag	02-16-10 11:46 AM

I am not going to aske permission from Ubi every time I want to play. I don't need to nor want to chat with anybody while I play (where does this come from? This feature has never been mentioned by Ubi)

Dark sounds like a few of the other fans.

Anyway fans may go ahead and buy as they wish. Just don't tell us to eat muck because flies like it.

Moo :D

onelifecrisis

02-16-10 11:47 AM

A lot of these analogies are really badly broken.
Would I show my receipt every five minutes? Make a phonecall every five minutes? Ask someone's permission every five minutes? No, of course not.
Will I allow my PC to connect to a server every five minutes, using it's always-on connection? Yes.

razark

02-16-10 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1269566)

Ask someone's permission every five minutes? No, of course not.
Will I allow my PC to connect to a server every five minutes, using it's always-on connection? Yes.

How are these any different? You're asking permission via your connection.

onelifecrisis

02-16-10 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by razark (Post 1269569)

How are these any different? You're asking permission via your connection.

Not verbally. Not physically. In fact, I'm not actually doing anything at all.

razark

02-16-10 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis (Post 1269570)

Not verbally. Not physically. In fact, I'm not actually doing anything at all.

And if you make a phone call, you're not actually talking to a person. You're talking into a microphone, that transmits electrical signals across a wire, that gets translated to a signal at the other end. A response is formed, translated into a signal that passes along wires, etc...

You're asking permission using the computer, instead of a phone.

So, if you have a tape recorder and automatic dialer doing the asking for permission on the phone, that's ok with you? It's not you doing it, it's the machine.

Point being, the machine is only a tool you are using. It doesn't have a mind of its own.

HundertzehnGustav

02-16-10 11:55 AM

Quote:

i think about 90% of all people have a permament connection too.

think again.

Quote:

i would say after 2-3 days the server will run 100% stable.

think twice. who cares about the fekkin server? once they have your money in their pockets...

Quote:

i just hope that we are able to chat in some global chat...because all people are connected to Ubi anyway...wouldnt this rock?! Chat with other people while you are sailing around! brag about your newest kill! :D

useless? teamspeak, skype, ICQ... SUBSIM:rotfl2:

Advice: be more critical about who you connect to. protect your data and your assets.

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