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Otto Harkaman 11-23-24 03:12 PM

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Recent developments along the Texas-Mexico border highlight significant cartel activity, with implications for both security and migration policies.
  1. Drug Trafficking and Cartel Operations: U.S. authorities recently dismantled operations linked to the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG), one of the most powerful cartels in Mexico. A Texas-based trafficker was sentenced to 40 years for smuggling large quantities of methamphetamine and cocaine into the U.S., laundering millions, and coordinating logistics with Mexican suppliers​
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  2. Migrant Flow Control: Cartels maintain strict control over migration routes in Mexico, often holding migrants captive until they pay ransom to continue their journey north. This has resulted in a dual crisis of human trafficking and abuse at the hands of criminal networks. U.S. and Mexican authorities have stepped up enforcement, but cartel dominance remains a major obstacle​
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  3. U.S. Border Security Efforts: Initiatives like Texas's "Operation Lone Star" aim to curb cartel influence through arrests and drug seizures. However, the border remains a hotbed for smuggling and unauthorized crossings, despite recent drops in migrant encounters attributed to policy changes​
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  4. Cartel-Driven Violence: The ongoing rivalry between major cartels like CJNG and the Sinaloa Cartel continues to fuel violence in border regions. This has spurred efforts by Mexican and U.S. authorities to target high-level cartel leaders and disrupt transnational operations​
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Otto Harkaman 11-23-24 03:17 PM

https://youtu.be/3Z5nW76pKVw?si=MKw-exBSrY2EoHJ8

The Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) is one of the most powerful and violent criminal organizations in Mexico. Known for its rapid rise and brutal tactics, CJNG operates across much of Mexico and extends its influence internationally. Below is an overview of its activities and significance:

Background
  • Formation: The CJNG emerged in the late 2000s as a faction of the Milenio Cartel, eventually becoming independent under the leadership of Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes, known as El Mencho.
  • Headquarters: The cartel is based in the state of Jalisco but operates in numerous Mexican states and internationally, including the U.S., Europe, and Asia.
Operations
  1. Drug Trafficking:
    • CJNG is a major player in smuggling synthetic drugs, including methamphetamine and fentanyl, as well as cocaine into the United States.
    • The cartel controls key trafficking routes and uses sophisticated methods, such as submarines and drones, to transport drugs.
  2. Violence:
    • CJNG is notorious for its extreme violence, including public displays of brutality, to intimidate rivals and authorities.
    • It has been involved in high-profile attacks against law enforcement, including a 2020 assassination attempt on Mexico City's police chief.
  3. Territorial Control:
    • The cartel has fought violent turf wars with other groups, especially the Sinaloa Cartel, over key drug routes and territories.
    • States like Michoacán, Veracruz, and Guerrero have been hotspots for CJNG-related violence.
Leadership and Structure
  • Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes (El Mencho):
    • One of the world's most-wanted criminals, with a $10 million reward from the U.S. government for information leading to his capture.
    • Under his leadership, CJNG has adopted a highly centralized and militaristic organizational structure.
  • Key Figures:
    • Several high-ranking CJNG members, including Oseguera's family, have been arrested, but the group has shown resilience in maintaining its operations.
Impact and Challenges
  1. Humanitarian Consequences:
    • The cartel’s activities contribute to mass displacement and violence in affected regions.
    • Migrants and local communities are often caught in the crossfire or exploited by CJNG.
  2. Law Enforcement Challenges:
    • CJNG's financial resources and global networks make it difficult to dismantle.
    • Corruption within Mexican institutions complicates enforcement efforts.
  3. U.S. Collaboration:
    • Joint U.S.-Mexico operations aim to disrupt the cartel’s operations, including extraditions, financial sanctions, and intelligence sharing.
Recent Developments
  • Law enforcement recently linked CJNG to major drug busts in Texas, highlighting its extensive smuggling operations【8†source】.
  • Violent clashes between CJNG and rival cartels, particularly the Sinaloa Cartel, continue to destabilize regions like Michoacán and Zacatecas【9†source】【10†source】.

Skybird 11-24-24 09:28 PM

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Otto Harkaman 11-24-24 09:38 PM

https://youtu.be/o5Xkf8sOR90?si=lho1h_evfNAOOkv3

August 11-25-24 10:09 PM

Political cases suffer a political defeat. :)

Judge dismisses Jan. 6 case against Trump as prez-elect calls prosecution ‘political hijacking’: ‘Low point in the History of our Country’

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A judge Monday dismissed the charges against Donald Trump related to the Jan. 6 riots after Special Counsel Jack Smith threw in the towel — with the president-elect bashing the case as solely “political hijacking.”
Presiding US District Judge Tanya Chutkan ​of Washington, DC, granted​ Smith’s motion filed ​earlier Monday seeking to dismiss the charges​ based on Trump’s victory in the 2024 presidential election and​ the precedent against indicting a sitting US president​.
Smith​’s team ​also separately moved ​Monday to end its appeal of a Florida judge’s decision nixing Smith’s classified document case against Trump — once considered one of the strongest in a slew of legal indictments against the Republican.

Buddahaid 11-26-24 12:10 AM

But will Jack Smith and the DOJ release their findings to the public?

Otto Harkaman 11-26-24 04:54 AM

^ I hope we get to investigate the FBI involvement in Jan 6

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Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman (Post 2908848)
Me: How many FBI agents were in the crowd at the capitol on Jan 6th?

AI Bing answer:

During the events at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, the FBI had a significant presence, including paid informants and undercover agents. However, the exact number of FBI agents in the crowd remains a matter of speculation and controversy.
Here are some key points:
  1. Paid Informants:
  2. Undercover Agents:
  3. Comparison to Other Defendants:
In summary, while the exact number of FBI agents remains unclear, their presence underscores the intricate dynamics of the events on January 6th.

Me: Ray Epps sentencing Jan 6th

AI Bing answer:
Ray Epps, a former United States Marine and Oath Keepers chapter president, faced legal consequences for his involvement in the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot. Here’s what happened:
  • Charge and Plea:
    • Epps was charged with one count of disorderly or disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds.
    • He pleaded guilty to this misdemeanor charge in September 2023.
  • Sentence:
    • Epps received one year of probation as part of his sentence.
    • Additionally, he was fined $25, ordered to pay $500 in restitution, and perform 100 hours of community service.
  • Conspiracy Theories:
    • Conspiracy theories circulated, alleging that Epps was an undercover government agent acting on behalf of the FBI.
    • Epps and federal prosecutors denied these claims.
  • Comparison to Other Defendants:
In summary, Epps’ sentencing reflects the complexities and variations in legal outcomes related to the Capitol riot.

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AVGWarhawk 11-26-24 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2934171)
But will Jack Smith and the DOJ release their findings to the public?

It has been 4 years. What else is there to find?

Otto Harkaman 11-26-24 10:01 AM

https://youtu.be/evRIetWVqQk?si=9taN684slwmP-J4m

The January 6 Committee, formally known as the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol, was a bipartisan (?) committee formed by the U.S. House of Representatives in July 2021. Its primary purpose was to investigate the events of January 6, 2021, when a mob of supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election results.
Key Objectives:
  1. Understand the Attack: Examine the events leading up to and during the attack, including the planning, coordination, and execution of the breach.
  2. Accountability: Determine the roles of various individuals and groups, including elected officials and extremist organizations.
  3. Recommendations: Propose measures to prevent similar events in the future, addressing security vulnerabilities and systemic issues.
Committee Composition:
  • The committee initially included nine members: seven Democrats and two Republicans (Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger), both of whom were vocal critics of Trump’s actions surrounding January 6.
  • It was chaired by Representative Bennie Thompson (D-MS), with Cheney serving as vice chair.
Major Findings:

In its hearings and final report released in late 2022, the committee highlighted:
  • Trump’s significant role in promoting baseless claims of election fraud, which fueled the events of January 6.
  • Efforts by Trump and his allies to pressure state officials, the Justice Department, and even Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election results.
  • Widespread security failures, both in intelligence sharing and law enforcement response.
Recommendations:

The committee proposed reforms, including:
  • Overhauling the Electoral Count Act to clarify the Vice President's role in the certification process.
  • Strengthening Capitol security.
  • Possible legal referrals for individuals involved in attempts to subvert the election.
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Legacy:

The January 6 Committee's work has been both praised and criticized. Supporters view it as a crucial effort to uphold democracy, while critics, particularly Trump allies, have dismissed it as politically motivated. Its findings have been referenced in ongoing legal cases, including the federal and state investigations into Trump’s actions surrounding the 2020 election.

Otto Harkaman 11-26-24 11:52 AM

What were the sources for this allegation: "In its hearings and final report released in late 2022, the committee highlighted; Trump’s significant role in promoting baseless claims of election fraud, which fueled the events of January 6."

The January 6 Committee's allegations about Trump’s role in promoting baseless claims of election fraud were based on a combination of evidence gathered through witness testimony, documents, and communications. Here are the primary sources the committee relied upon:

1. Testimony from Close Aides and Officials
  • White House Staff: Testimony from Trump administration officials, including former White House lawyers (e.g., Pat Cipollone) and advisors, indicated that many within Trump’s inner circle knew the election fraud claims were unfounded.
  • Campaign Officials: Individuals like Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager, testified about the lack of evidence for fraud and internal disputes between advisors urging Trump to accept the loss versus those advocating legal challenges.
  • Justice Department Officials: Former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and other DOJ officials testified about Trump pressuring them to investigate and support baseless claims of fraud.
2. Trump’s Public Statements
  • The committee reviewed numerous speeches, tweets, and interviews in which Trump repeatedly claimed the election was "stolen" or "rigged" without evidence. Notably, his speech at the Ellipse on January 6 called on supporters to "fight like hell."
3. Internal Communications
  • Texts, emails, and memos were obtained from Trump allies and campaign staff. These included drafts of statements and internal communications showing that some advisors acknowledged the lack of evidence for fraud.
  • For example, Trump campaign lawyer Eric Herschmann reportedly warned against advancing claims that were unsupported by facts.
4. State-Level Evidence
  • Testimony from state officials like Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who described Trump's call urging him to "find" enough votes to overturn the state's results.
5. Testimony on the Role of Extremist Groups
  • Evidence suggested Trump’s rhetoric emboldened groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, who interpreted his claims and public statements as a call to action.
6. Insights from Legal Challenges
  • The committee referenced the outcomes of dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump’s legal team. The vast majority were dismissed due to lack of evidence, further undermining the fraud claims.
These sources, combined with the timeline and coordination efforts revealed during the hearings, were used to support the committee's assertion that Trump played a central role in propagating false election fraud narratives that ultimately incited the January 6 Capitol attack.

Otto Harkaman 11-26-24 11:55 AM

Did the FBI infiltrate the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers?

Yes, evidence has shown that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies had infiltrated extremist groups like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers before and during the events surrounding January 6, 2021. This infiltration is part of standard law enforcement tactics to monitor potential criminal or violent activities within such organizations.

Key Points on FBI Infiltration:
  1. Use of Informants:
    • The FBI reportedly used confidential informants and undercover agents to gather intelligence on groups like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
    • Court filings and media reports have revealed that informants were present during planning meetings and even on the ground at the Capitol on January 6.
    • For instance, one high-ranking member of the Proud Boys was identified as a long-time FBI informant, providing insights into the group’s activities before January 6.
  2. Extent of Infiltration:
    • Testimonies and documents in legal proceedings indicate that informants provided information about plans for rallies, security measures, and other activities leading up to January 6.
    • The exact depth of the FBI's knowledge has been debated, with questions about whether they could have done more to prevent the Capitol attack.
  3. Impact on Investigations:
    • Information obtained from informants was used in prosecutions of key leaders and members of these groups. For example:
      • Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other charges.
      • Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was also convicted of seditious conspiracy.
  4. Controversies and Debates:
    • Some critics have questioned whether the FBI’s infiltrations provided adequate warning to prevent the January 6 attack.
    • Others have speculated whether informants or undercover agents had any role in escalating tensions, though no credible evidence has emerged to suggest this.
The use of informants and infiltration is a standard tactic in monitoring extremist groups and preventing violence. In the case of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, it played a role in understanding their organizational structure and holding leaders accountable for their roles in the January 6 events.

Buddahaid 11-26-24 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2934195)
It has been 4 years. What else is there to find?

The evidence perhaps but maybe not as the case was dismissed without prejudice and can be refiled later. Jack Smith is required to make a report, and we'll see if Garland releases it which he should.

mapuc 11-26-24 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2934261)
The evidence perhaps but maybe not as the case was dismissed without prejudice and can be refiled later. Jack Smith is required to make a report, and we'll see if Garland releases it which he should.

Evidence well depending on the standpoint s/he will come to their own conclusion

Some will say he's guilty, while some will say he's innocent

Markus

Gorpet 11-26-24 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by u crank (Post 2933513)
You do realize Markus that men will lie about just about anything for sex. Including who they voted for.

:D:D:D

You do realize, Women are no better than men and will lie about anything and everything ,Including who they have had sex with and who they have voted for. Oh and Bank accounts and charge cards.American woman stay away from me.That was a good song, and it's true today.

Buddahaid 11-26-24 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorpet (Post 2934291)
You do realize, Women are no better than men and will lie about anything and everything ,Including who they have had sex with and who they have voted for. Oh and Bank accounts and charge cards.American woman stay away from me.That was a good song, and it's true today.

But, butt, but, butt...... We're all doomed....:arrgh!:
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