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Jimbuna 01-19-22 11:14 AM

Officially known as the Conservative Private Member’s Committee, "The 22” is an influential backbench of Tory MPs. The group was originally a private dining group, made up of new Tory MPs elected in the 1922 General Election – where it takes its name. The group has grown to become an important ball part of the system that Conservative MPs use to express views on party leadership, and now plays an important role in the election of a leader to the party.

If 15% of Tory MPs write to the chairman of the backbench committee – currently Graham Brady – a leadership challenge is triggered. As there are currently 360 Conservative MPs sitting in Parliament, 54 Conservative MPs would need to submit letters to the 1922 Committee to trigger an automatic leadership vote.

If Boris wins the vote he can't be challenged again for a period of twelve months.

Jimbuna 01-19-22 01:25 PM

Boris Johnson grilled by Line of Duty team in spoof video viewed by 5m

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...d-by-5-million

:haha:

Skybird 01-19-22 03:29 PM

The wine parties were an offence to and a ridiculing of the public that was under lockdown and had extremely limiting rules to bear. These meetings and his participation are disgusting. His weaseling and hiding behind that "investigation" and his obvious lying to get away with it, is both disgusting and ridiculous.

He should not be allowed to just leave. He should be chased away, with a boot in his lower back and eggs and stones flying after him. Enough is enough. His time is up.

That Corona coincided with Brexit, is not his fault, and we will never know if and how Brexit would have worked out without Corona. But on too many occasions he now has told opportunistic untruths. He must go.

Jimbuna 01-20-22 10:20 AM

^ Fully agree :yep:

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London’s Met Police refers itself to misconduct watchdog over allegations officers failed to step in and shut down ‘lockdown-breaching’ parties in and around Downing Street and didn’t investigate them properly later
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...legations.html
And so they bloody well should!

mapuc 01-20-22 10:26 AM

Saw some minutes from the British Parliament and my first thought was If lived in UK I would say What a cirkus it has turned into.

Markus

Jimbuna 01-20-22 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2788882)
Saw some minutes from the British Parliament and my first thought was If lived in UK I would say What a cirkus it has turned into.

Markus

https://i.postimg.cc/JzFm2R4Z/poster...-f8f8f8-u2.jpg

Jimbuna 01-22-22 11:32 AM

A Conservative backbencher who accused Downing Street of trying to "blackmail" MPs seeking to oust Boris Johnson is to meet police to discuss his allegations.

William Wragg said he will be speaking to a Met Police detective in the House of Commons early next week, after requesting a meeting with the force.

The MP, who wants the prime minister to quit, said he wanted to leave any probe to "experts" rather than No 10.

Downing Street said it had not seen any proof of the behaviour he alleges.

A spokesman said on Friday they were not investigating the allegations but would look "carefully" at any evidence presented to them.

Chris Bryant, who is chairman of the Commons Committee on Standards, said he had spoken to about a dozen Tory MPs in the past few days who had made similar allegations of whips threatening to withdraw funding for their constituencies, including for campaigning and infrastructure such as bypasses and schools.

"I've even heard MPs alleging that the prime minister himself has been doing this," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

He described the alleged behaviour as "misconduct in public office" and said it was a matter for the police.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60093893

mapuc 01-22-22 11:58 AM

Here's an If question

What will happen with Boris, if the police find enough proof that he have tried to blackmail and/or threaten other members of the Tory party ?

Markus

Jimbuna 01-22-22 12:12 PM

Kicked out of office after a Parliamentary vote of no confidence.

mapuc 01-22-22 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2789282)
Kicked out of office after a Parliamentary vote of no confidence.

I presume, the police want to have a chat with him based on following

"He described the alleged behaviour as "misconduct in public office" and said it was a matter for the police."

I doubt that blackmail and threat is legal whether you are a politician or not.
(if they find enough evidence-He is innocent until proven guilty)

Markus

Jimbuna 01-22-22 12:32 PM

The guy (as was predicted by many) has become a laughing stock not only in the UK but also on the world stage.

mapuc 01-22-22 12:43 PM

Can an elected Politician in the UK Parliament be impeached or do you not have such a thing ?

Markus

Jimbuna 01-22-22 01:10 PM

No such thing as impeachment as far as I'm aware...the simple method would be a vote of no confidence.

Skybird 01-24-22 02:49 PM

Birthday party, eh? 30+ guests, and celebrations in his private rooms with staffers not even belonging to Down It Street, eh? MET police strongly blasting away against the Boris's claims on what happened, eh?

Has the political funeral for him already been fixed in the calender? If not, its getting about high time, I think. He's done. A blond scalp will soon be served on the BBC's newsroom desk. Im sure this time the anchorman will smile and not hide is amusement, they have some open bills with him, or not...

Jimbuna 01-24-22 02:53 PM

Downing Street, the gift that keeps on giving.

Quote:

Downing Street has admitted that staff gathered inside No 10 to celebrate Boris Johnson's birthday when the first Covid lockdown was still in place.

ITV News reports up to 30 people attended the June 2020 event, sang Happy Birthday and were served cake.

No 10 said staff had "gathered briefly" to "wish the prime minister a happy birthday", adding that he had been there "for less than 10 minutes".

Rules at the time banned most indoor gatherings of more than two people.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60114812

mapuc 01-26-22 08:44 AM

In a stream from the British Parliament I could hear Boris refusing to resign

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-60134104


I guess he can do that-but if the Parliament vote for a kick-the Prime minister-out-Then he has to leave doesn't he ?

If he still refuse-Will it then be the police who has to remove him ?

I hope he know when he has lost and leave.

Markus

Jimbuna 01-26-22 10:12 AM

Boris has been proven to be a liar many times over the years, it is in his DNA.

He will dig his heels in until the very end.

The Sue Gray report is expected to be released later today and after a short period of time to allow MP's to read it there may yet be a vote of no confidence in him by his fellow Tory MP's

Should he lose that vote he will be obliged to resign but not a moment before.

Jimbuna 01-26-22 10:27 AM

The latest revelation...

Quote:

Boris Johnson authorised the evacuation of animals from Afghanistan during the fall of Kabul, according to emails leaked by a whistleblower.

The PM has previously dismissed as "nonsense" claims he intervened in the evacuation of the Nowzad charity, run by former Royal Marine Pen Farthing.

But an email from an official in minister Zac Goldsmith's office suggests he was personally involved.

It is one of a number of emails released by a select committee.

The August 2021 message to another official in the Foreign Office says: "Charity Nowzad, run by an ex-Royal Marine, has received a lot of publicity and the PM has just authorised their staff and animals to be evacuated."

When asked in December if he had prioritised animals over the Afghan people in the evacuation of Kabul, Mr Johnson said: "That is complete nonsense."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60143279

Jimbuna 01-27-22 06:29 AM

Quote:

Jobseekers on Universal Credit will have to look for jobs outside their chosen field more quickly or face sanctions under new government plans.

From Thursday, people will have to look outside their sectors after just four weeks, rather than three months.

If they fail to make "reasonable efforts" to get a job, or turn down employment, they could see their benefit payment reduced.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60149016
Not sure what to make of this.

Skybird 01-27-22 07:18 AM

Its clear, similiar things are tried in Germany as well. Long term unemployed who refuse jobs, are pushed to nevertheless take offered jobs by reducing their benefits.

In case of the UK it might be even more pressing an issue since there are shortages of workers in certain areas that UK citizens did not want to do and left to seasonal workers and job migrants from abroad that now have been banned to enter or to work in the UK. I must not tell you about the shortages of truck drivers, as an example, further worstened due to Corona quarantines.

In principle I agree with such steps. It cannot be that the community has to pay for the daily bills of somebody who is offered work that would allow hiomn to come up for the costs of his living, but that he doe snto want, expecting to live at th cost of the others.

I would even go a step further, for reasons reaching beyond this imminent context, and exclude people who live of social wellfare and get general benefits like unemployment money from voting rights. Same for prisoners: voting rights are cancelled as long as they are in prison. A prisoner is no citizen in my book, but a prisoner. His citizen rights are temporarily disabled for as long as he is a prisoner.

It cannot be that people who live at the cost of the community are even allowed to vote for conditions and politicians that continue and maybe even widen their personal profits form this scheme. If you accept state aid you are under (moral) obligation to do your best to cut this period as short as possible. Once you are back in any kind of work you make aliving of you then can use this as a platform for looking for another, more wanted follow-on job. But if you are unemployed, the priority is to bring you into work again so that you do not cost the community more than absolutely inevitable.

I did over a dozen jobs in my life. Most of them were not really pleasant, or satisfying, and none of them turned me into a welathy man except just one, and I did not do them because I wanted to do them, but because it was what was available to me at those times. If I could have done and worked so, I can demand others to do the same.


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