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Relations with Germany will cool after the new government took to office. Both Scholz and Baerbock, latter being the most likely foreign minister, will be more confronting in their unwavering support of official EU positions that go head-to-head with UK wishes and desires, than Merkel was. And Merkel already was jovial, but cool. For Johnson, this government is no good news.

France gains influence, and tremendously so, with its ambitions, with germany beign weak now and the giovenrment beign far more open for pet hobbies of French goals for the EU (namely the transfer union), and Brussels will benefit. Not good for the UK. Not good for liberty and self-responsibility and serious management of state budgets.

Poland and Hungary will feel colder winds in their faces, too.

Impressing Russia and China and the US ( under both Biden and future Trump 2) this new government cannot, it lacks the weight and the means of power to be taken that serious by these powers.

Jimbuna

11-25-21 08:32 AM

^ Interesting times ahead then.

mapuc

12-06-21 04:49 PM

In our elected politician we trust.

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Sir Lindsay told the BBC: "The accounts of drug misuse in Parliament given to the Sunday Times are deeply concerning, and I will be raising them as a priority with the Metropolitan Police next week. I expect to see full and effective enforcement of the law.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59539589

Scary to think about elected politicians who has problem staying on the right side of the law.

Markus

Jimbuna

12-07-21 08:54 AM

Yes, standards have been steadily declining over recent years but I think the same can be said of quite a few other countries as well.

mapuc

12-07-21 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2781773)

Yes, standards have been steadily declining over recent years but I think the same can be said of quite a few other countries as well.

Indeed they found traces of cocaine in the Danish Parliament some years ago and not so long after this, some politician got caught high on cocaine and with x-gram cocaine on him. He was driving.

Markus

Skybird

12-09-21 03:34 PM

German press titles that the latest scandal is the one scandal that marks the beginning of the end of Johnson, and that he is currently loosing indispensible amounts of trust.

How does the British public see it? Realistic German assessment - or wishful thinking?

Jimbuna

12-11-21 07:01 AM

Probably end up like Thatcher did and get dragged off his throne but I think that is stil;l a little way off happening.

A majority like he has in Parliament is a good buffer.

Jimbuna

12-16-21 11:18 AM

^ Are the sands of time beginning to run out?

Tory MPs told they can email letters of no confidence in Boris Johnson over Christmas
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...8Xs?li=BBoPWjQ

Jimbuna

12-17-21 09:37 AM

No surprises regarding the election result last night then.

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The Liberal Democrats have won the North Shropshire by-election, taking a seat the Tories have held for nearly 200 years.

Winner Helen Morgan took the seat by nearly 6,000 votes, overturning a Conservative majority of almost 23,000

Boris Johnson says he has to accept the voters' verdict and that he understands "people's frustrations"

Morgan says the "party is over" for Johnson and punctures a balloon with his name on it as the Lib Dems celebrate.

The poll came after a turbulent month for the PM, with intense scrutiny on lockdown parties in Downing Street last year.

He also faced a rebellion of 100 of his MPs this week over Covid regulations.

Veteran Tory MP Roger Gale gives the PM a warning, saying: "One more strike and he's out"

Former Lib Dem leader Tim Farron says voters in North Shropshire spoke "for the whole of Britain last night"

Skybird

12-18-21 10:18 AM

He is not yet gone through the door out, by I think he already got handed his coat.

Corona blew it for him and Brexit.

Could it be that the virus is EU-made? Asking this in all innocence, of course.

Of course. :D

Catfish

12-18-21 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2783549)

Corona blew it for him and Brexit.
Could it be that the virus is EU-made? Asking this in all innocence, of course.
Of course. :D

Of course it is all the EU's fault, even what happens at Aldebaran now.
Don't ask how i know :)

mapuc

12-18-21 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2783565)

Of course it is all the EU's fault, even what happens at Aldebaran now.
Don't ask how i know :)

Staying OT
Rumours has it that the storm troppers are clones from Frau Merkel.
End of OT.

Markus

Skybird

12-18-21 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2783567)

Rumours has it that the storm troppers are clones from Frau Merkel.

^ :D :har: Scheisse der war gut! :haha:

Jimbuna

12-19-21 01:00 PM

As if things couldn't get any worse.

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Conservative MPs are split over the resignation of Brexit Minister Lord Frost, who left his post on Saturday.

The peer told Boris Johnson he had "concerns about the current direction of travel" of the government, including over Covid policy, urging the PM to avoid introducing "coercive measures".

Tory backbenchers who share his views have called his exit a "disaster".

But others in the party said it offered a chance to "press the reset button" in negotiations with the EU.

Lord Frost's departure comes days after the PM faced the largest rebellion of his premiership from his own backbenches over measures to limit the spread of the new Omicron variant.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59719912

Jimbuna

12-19-21 01:32 PM

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss will replace Lord Frost as the UK's lead negotiator with the EU in post-Brexit talks.

She will retain her role as foreign minister alongside the new post leading negotiations over the Northern Ireland Protocol.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59721801

Skybird

12-20-21 08:05 AM

Another nail in his coffin?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...en-in-may-2020

How dumb and/or reality-disconnected are these people? Did they consider themselves safe or could they simply not imagine what message this would send if ever being reported like it now happenes?

Anti-coronistas will find this to be welcomed ammunition.

Jimbuna

12-20-21 08:37 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/T3VBQcQG/8064b0...fd53bd2744.jpg

Catfish

12-20-21 11:26 AM

^ :D

May 2020:

https://i.imgur.com/edgMEGOm.jpg

Jimbuna

12-21-21 08:27 AM

Pleading 'Not Guilty' :o

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A man has pleaded not guilty to the murder of MP Sir David Amess in an alleged terror attack.

Ali Harbi Ali, 25, from Kentish Town, north London, appeared at the Old Bailey to deny murdering the Conservative politician on 15 October.

Sir David, an MP since 1983, was holding a constituency surgery in Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, when he was stabbed multiple times.

The father of five - who was 69 years old - died at the scene.

The defendant also pleaded not guilty to preparing acts of terrorism between May 2019 and September 2021.

It is alleged the preparations included engaging in reconnaissance of locations of targets to attack, namely the Houses of Parliament and addresses associated with MPs, and conducting internet research relating to targets.

Mr Ali entered not guilty pleas at a hearing before Mr Justice Sweeney at the Old Bailey in London.

The senior judge appeared virtually from Manchester Crown Court while Mr Ali was in the dock at the Central Criminal Court in London.

The defendant wore a blue sweatshirt and grey jogging bottoms and stood with his arms crossed as he confirmed his identity and entered pleas without removing his face mask.

Mr Ali was arrested at Belfairs Methodist Church Hall in Leigh-on-Sea where it is alleged he stabbed Sir David, MP for Southend West.

Following the half-hour hearing, Mr Ali was remanded in custody ahead of his trial on 21 March 2022.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59739947

Skybird

12-26-21 08:11 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...has-gone-badly

Fairness commands that these results obviously are massively distorted by Covid having tackled Brexit seriously and pretty badly. "Blutgrätsche von hinten" we call it in German.

A time of lack was to be expected with brexit (and without Covid). Not as serious as Covid made it, but still. But then I would have expected a time of compendaiton and then a time of rise above the level possible with having stayed in the EU. I counted in a timeframe of 4-8 years for the final outocme to show up, so, ther eis still time. But I doubt that the deficits and rifts causded by Covid (and a most treacherous France) will be compensated for withion this time. I hope I am wrong.

Not all is Johnson's fault, though much is. But Covid could not have been on anyone's radar screen. For the time being it has crippled and ruined Brexit.

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