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mapuc 03-28-23 01:02 PM

< I support the Ukrainian people I therefore believe what it is said about the Russian offensive.

It's an almost failure.

I can not prove it 110 % I'm convinced that the UA forces are way better in almost everything.

There are those Putin supporters who says the offensive is a success.

Who will win this war ? Personally I hope it's the Ukrainian

How can we know that this is the case ?

Very unlikely-Russia use tactical nukes
Very likely-A Russian collapse and civil war in their country

Markus

mapuc 03-28-23 01:19 PM

The Russian tactics seems to make the war go on for long so the West gets tired of giving military aid to Ukraine.

Quote:

Putin initiated the current war and is the key actor who must decide that he cannot achieve his aims by military power and must instead engage in a negotiated resolution of the conflict if the war is to end in this fashion. The war will protract as long as Putin believes that he can impose his will on Ukraine by fighting or by breaking the Ukrainians’ will to fight following their abandonment by the West.
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...-march-26-2023

Markus

Jimbuna 03-28-23 01:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qOqSOdWkvQ

Jimbuna 03-28-23 01:30 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOWVCfhBNqE

Skybird 03-28-23 01:55 PM

The Swiss have opted for that two dozen Leopard-2 of theirs that they already have decommissioned, can be delivered to Grmany. Germany asked for these tanks to refurbish them and to hand them over to Ukraine then.



Thats good news for Kyiv.

Catfish 03-28-23 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2860379)
The Swiss have opted for that two dozen Leopard-2 of theirs that they already have decommissioned, can be delivered to Grmany. [...]

But Switzerland will never deliver ammunition for e.g. the Gepard :hmmm:

Jimbuna 03-28-23 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2860381)
But Switzerland will never deliver ammunition for e.g. the Gepard :hmmm:

I may be wrong but I believe it is against their law to give armaments to any country engaged in warfare.

August 03-28-23 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2860381)
But Switzerland will never deliver ammunition for e.g. the Gepard :hmmm:




Technically the Swiss are just giving the tanks back to your people. They might balk at direct ammo sales but maybe they will sell it to you folks and you can send it to the Ukes instead?

Skybird 03-28-23 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2860381)
But Switzerland will never deliver ammunition for e.g. the Gepard :hmmm:

I must precise and must correct myself. The idea is that Rheinmetall buys the Leopards back, refurbishes them and then hands them to a NATO country that has given Leopards to Ukraine. In other words, a "Ringtausch" again. Formalities. Cost time.


https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/nationalr...ten-ld.1732443

Rockstar 03-28-23 10:59 PM

Oh oh dissension in the ranks of state tv

https://youtu.be/AiNfWXBbg4A

Reece 03-29-23 02:47 AM

You always get one Rockstar!! :doh:

Skybird 03-29-23 05:47 AM

Spanish media get quoted with reporting that 6 Leopard-2A4s will soon be delivered by Spain directly to Ukraine. Ukrainian crews and technicians have been trained in Spain in recent weeks.

Jimbuna 03-29-23 06:27 AM

Putin may launch nuclear strike 'to cause misery amid Russian failure to conquer Ukraine'

Vladimir Putin could use nuclear weapons in Ukraine if he feels defeat is imminent, a leading think-tank has warned.

Moscow has prompted fresh concern in recent days over its willingness to deploy the devastating weapons, last week announcing it would move nuclear missiles into Belarus before today commencing exercises with its Yars intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) systems.

In a research paper for the UK's leading foreign policy think tank Chatham House, Russia and Eurasia expert Keir Giles warned there is a 'non-zero' chance Putin could seek to use nukes in Ukraine.

He wrote: 'A nuclear strike could be ordered if there is no longer any possibility of claiming conventional victory and a powerful destructive attack on Ukraine is perceived as the only means of avoiding admission of a clear defeat.

'The moment at which Putin feels his options are exhausted is likely to be the most significantly dangerous decision point,' he concluded.

Giles pointed out that nuclear weapons would have very little military utility on the ground in Ukraine, given that the frontline stretches hundreds of miles and that any strike would not only kill Ukrainians, but also irradiate the land and render it uninhabitable for Russian troops.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...41b91dff&ei=77

Jimbuna 03-29-23 06:31 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49ow_7RqJU

mapuc 03-29-23 06:34 AM

If he hadn't lost the war before he would now if he use nukes in Ukraine.

He is pressed up in the corner and would he be thinking logically when ordering use of nuke ?

I say no-That's why he doesn't care about his soldiers, only to win.

Markus


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