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eddie 11-14-15 08:47 PM

US strikes at Daesh leader in Libya, I hope they got him!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...bya/ar-BBn0mCr

Betonov 11-15-15 02:34 AM

Just send the Russians in.

They're not war weary like NATO is after Iraq and Afganistan and they'll bring a pleasant brutality to ISIS.
Just tell them where ISIS is, a lot of their bombs seem to fall on non-ISIS territory :stare:

Oberon 11-15-15 02:45 PM

Speaking of the Russians...could this picture be the start of increased co-operation between Russia and the US against Daesh?

http://i.imgur.com/AOF6Yf4.jpg

Betonov 11-15-15 03:00 PM

Slovene media reported a week ago that Russians are ready to make a deal with the non ISIS rebels in Syria about some govermental changes in Damascus.
I hope this is a) true and b) the terms on both sides won't be something neither side will accept

Mr Quatro 11-15-15 03:05 PM

Cool picture ... What are they saying?


Quote:

Obama: "We know from experience that if we do this then they wil do that"

Putin: "Maybe we should nuke them and then blame it on the USA"

Obama: "How about we blame it on France they have nuclear submarines we could blame it on"

Putin: "Won't work unless you wipe them all out"
Bottom line is that isis is saying stay out of our terrritory or we will get rough.

I bet they have some of those left over Syrian wmd hiding somewhere and if they get backed
into a corner they won't out with a whimper :yep:

Oberon 11-15-15 03:11 PM

Not so sure if the meeting went so well:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CT3GyMAVAAA_yRl.jpg:large

Oberon 11-15-15 03:16 PM

Another way to look at the attack in Paris is perhaps we have hurt them so badly that they feel a need to lash out.
They say that a wounded and cornered animal is the most dangerous. Perhaps Daesh has been hit hard by the combined forces arrayed against them that they have reached out to try and change the tide by increasing paranoia in Europe so that more Muslim reinforcements join their cause. :hmmm:

Bloomberg has a good article on the difficulties of destroying Daesh:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...uge-challenges

Tchocky 11-15-15 03:41 PM

They have been losing ground in Syria & Iraq, yeah.

Kptlt. Neuerburg 11-15-15 06:47 PM

Well it looks like the French wasted no time in going after Daesh.
Quote:

Sky News
French fighter planes have dropped 20 bombs on the Islamic State (IS) stronghold of Raqqa in northern Syria.
The bombers hit a jihadi recruitment centre, training camp and arms depot run by the extremist group, according to the French defence ministry.
A spokesman described it as a "massive" attack and France's biggest to date in Syria.
The aerial raid was launched from air bases in United Arab Emirates and Jordan, and involved 10 of France's 12 fighter bombers based there.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...vkJ?li=AAa0dzB

mapuc 11-15-15 06:47 PM

Read this article in a Danish online newspaper
authors Hamed Abdel Samad German-Egyptian Islam expert


"The dangerous prophet"

"Muhammad is the role model for millions of Muslims - but also for terrorists. This is due to Islam's holy prophet also had tyrannical and paranoiske personality traits

Many Muslims are still today taken captive by the mysterious figure Muhammad, who lived in the 600s. Conversely, also the historical Muhammad himself taken captive by the Muslims exaggerated worship and claim his sanctity

Prophet's omnipresence in education and politics and the excessive focus on the religious component in many Islamic societies blocks the development of alternative identities. Everything goes back to him; he hovers over everything and dominates the daily life of Muslim citizens, politicians and theologians. At the same time prevents Muslims strong emotional attachment to and unreflective exaltation of the prophet that there can be a historical-critical examination of Islam's founder.

The more I'm studying Muhammad, the more it seems to me, as I am, with a deck of tarot cards in your hand. Some cards offer comfort and hope, while others are deeply terrifying. Sometimes I draw the moral argumentative preacher from Mecca, sometimes intolerant warlord from Medina. Here is both a man who speaks of compassion and forgiveness, and a mentally ill mass murderer and tyrant.
"
This was just a part of it its very long and google translate isn't the most perfet toy to use.

Markus

Stealhead 11-15-15 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2358853)
Read this article in a Danish online newspaper
authors Hamed Abdel Samad German-Egyptian Islam expert


"The dangerous prophet"

"Muhammad is the role model for millions of Muslims - but also for terrorists. This is due to Islam's holy prophet also had tyrannical and paranoiske personality traits

Many Muslims are still today taken captive by the mysterious figure Muhammad, who lived in the 600s. Conversely, also the historical Muhammad himself taken captive by the Muslims exaggerated worship and claim his sanctity

Prophet's omnipresence in education and politics and the excessive focus on the religious component in many Islamic societies blocks the development of alternative identities. Everything goes back to him; he hovers over everything and dominates the daily life of Muslim citizens, politicians and theologians. At the same time prevents Muslims strong emotional attachment to and unreflective exaltation of the prophet that there can be a historical-critical examination of Islam's founder.

The more I'm studying Muhammad, the more it seems to me, as I am, with a deck of tarot cards in your hand. Some cards offer comfort and hope, while others are deeply terrifying. Sometimes I draw the moral argumentative preacher from Mecca, sometimes intolerant warlord from Medina. Here is both a man who speaks of compassion and forgiveness, and a mentally ill mass murderer and tyrant.
"
This was just a part of it its very long and google translate isn't the most perfet toy to use.

Markus

It didnt translate very well.

Dmitry Markov 11-16-15 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2358853)
Read this article in a Danish online newspaper
authors Hamed Abdel Samad German-Egyptian Islam expert


"The dangerous prophet"

"Muhammad is the role model for millions of Muslims - but also for terrorists. This is due to Islam's holy prophet also had tyrannical and paranoiske personality traits

Many Muslims are still today taken captive by the mysterious figure Muhammad, who lived in the 600s. Conversely, also the historical Muhammad himself taken captive by the Muslims exaggerated worship and claim his sanctity

Prophet's omnipresence in education and politics and the excessive focus on the religious component in many Islamic societies blocks the development of alternative identities. Everything goes back to him; he hovers over everything and dominates the daily life of Muslim citizens, politicians and theologians. At the same time prevents Muslims strong emotional attachment to and unreflective exaltation of the prophet that there can be a historical-critical examination of Islam's founder.

The more I'm studying Muhammad, the more it seems to me, as I am, with a deck of tarot cards in your hand. Some cards offer comfort and hope, while others are deeply terrifying. Sometimes I draw the moral argumentative preacher from Mecca, sometimes intolerant warlord from Medina. Here is both a man who speaks of compassion and forgiveness, and a mentally ill mass murderer and tyrant.
"
This was just a part of it its very long and google translate isn't the most perfet toy to use.

Markus

This article word by word repeats what I've been told in institute during lectures on History of Religions. As I see it: it's always a matter of individual choice - what kind of a person you want to become and the same time it's a matter of your environment ( who are your family, how well are your economic conditions and so on). As for Muslims - their religion gives them way to become either a decent person from, say, Christian point of view or to become a person that is not so decent. What puzzles here is that people choose Islam because it gives an individual a very clear instructions what to do and what not to do - so being a Muslim means that you have strong moral base and confidence in your sacred fate. And here is where environment begins to play it's role - that is the only thing which defines will a person become a terrorist or a good citizen since you cannot criticize the Prophet.

My country is multicultural and I have friends who are Muslims, citizens of my country, and are very good people from any point of view. On the other hand we suffer from Islamic terrorists who are also citizens of our country. Sometimes I wonder what made the both what they are and why they are so polar while sharing the same religion. And I think that there must be some other factors - that work in pair with religion that define a person.

CaptainRamius 11-16-15 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2358817)
They have been losing ground in Syria & Iraq, yeah.

Definitely. After the continuous bombings by the US and NATO, ISIS is now on its way back down the food chain :)

Betonov 11-16-15 03:28 AM

Ugh, facebook at it's ''best''
The people behind the keyboards I mean.

While I understand people like eddy wondering where's the compassion for Palestinians, Lebanese and Afgans that also suffered attacks in the last week, where I can say for myself that it's my eurocentricity (that I'm not ashamed of) and media hypocrisy (whch is shameful),
I don't understand people that one week ago posted moronics that they should post machine guns on the border to prevent migrants coming in and now they're protesting people are more compasionate to the French than Palestinians.
No wait, I do understand them. They're morons and retards and... I should stop here

:nope:

CaptainRamius 11-16-15 03:57 AM

Did you guys know that ISIS is using the PlayStation 4 to contact possible recruits? Just wanted to get that out there

ikalugin 11-16-15 05:30 AM

I doubt that we would go alone on the ground against the ISIS, we prefer providing CAS to Iranians and Syrians.

Betonov 11-16-15 05:39 AM

Just a few spetznaz.
You know.
To cut the jewels off ISIS fighters.

Jimbuna 11-16-15 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2358805)
Cool picture ... What are they saying?

The first one to find the ace of hearts wins the pot...

http://i.imgur.com/Nh18MYR.jpg

CaptainRamius 11-16-15 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2358927)
I doubt that we would go alone on the ground against the ISIS, we prefer providing CAS to Iranians and Syrians.

True. But we would win faster if the US put troops on the ground.
:hmph:

CaptainRamius 11-16-15 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2358932)
Just a few spetznaz.
You know.
To cut the jewels off ISIS fighters.

Spetznaz instead of SEAL teams? Unlikely. :hmm2:


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