That's my fear. Being wrong!
AIDS, so easily avoided, became a problem.
Now Ebola is being down played much as AIDS was.

2 to 21 days to being a danger? Reminds me of the movie 28 Days Later.
:huh:

After healing out, AIDS virusses can still be present in semen for another 90 days, that is often overlooked. It's hard for some people, but you better don't have sex for three months after you survived Ebola.

The small drops of fluid in your breath can be enough to get infected for sure, they can tranpsort the virus over short distances, 1-2 m. Travelling a tube of anm air condition system however I think is not possible.

So even if not touching a patient, you are at risk if being in close vicinity to a patient without protective gear. Entry lanes into your body are the eyes, nose, mouth, and all skin ruptures.

Protective mobile gear as to be seen in hospitals needs to be changed every 40 minutes in case of Ebola. It takes 5 minutes to get into it, and 15 minutes to get out (a helper must spray you with chlorine as well).

Why is there a 40 minute limit?

P.s. 40-60 min period would be logical for an old closed NBCR suit (such as the L1), however in the case of the Ebola I do not see the need for such level of protection.

Myth Busters concluded when somebody sneezes the body fluid expelled can reach a speed of up to 17 miles an hour (27 kph) and travel up to 39 feet (11.8 meters). If anyone is within shot of that aerosol it gets inhaled, in their eyes or contaminates open sores.

I'm no doctor but I figure if you can pass on a cold or flu virus by sneezing you could most likely pass on an Ebola virus. But like I said I'm not a doctor so what do I know.

Cannot tell, I just refer to what I read in a report about recommendations issued by the UN health organization.

I assume it has something to do with the fact that the protective gear worn in less developed countries, does not provide full isolation like the hightech spacesuits used in a high level security lab. The nurse in Spain got infected by just walking into the room twice, wearing protective gear of that kind, once to remove some textiles, and once to get out some medical instruments.

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Since I love the German LOLwaffe so much recently: the Germans are shuttling an Ebola mission to Africa, hospital, staff, all that. German forces love this kind of missions, since no fighting is involved, nobody joins the German army to fight in a war, those who want fighting instead travel to the ME and join IS or AQ. Staff - all volunteers - was told that in case of infection they would be flown out and back to Germany immediately. - Yesterday the ministry of defence had to paddle back, admitting that the German forces would not have the capacity needed to fly out any infected personnel of theirs soon. Yes, trust your eyes, you read that right. - Quiz time: how many air transports does it take to fly a high risk patient in protective isolation capsule from Liberia to Germany, when it takes 4 Transalls to fly 7 German weapon instructors from London to Northern Iraq? :D Four? Five? Six? More than six?

Food for thought. :woot:

Well as far as I know you need to protect yourself from bodily liquids of the patients so you probably want a non permable suit with a light respirator and eye protection. You don't need all round sealing protection in my opinion, as the agent in question would appear to be either a liquid (blood, ect) or a low density aerozole (from breathing ect).

This would lead to a possibly extended operational times than when compared to the MOPP4 stuff, but even then you could operate for longer times under MOPP4 if need be.

The issue would be not the gear itself (which is cheap and easy to obtain), but with operating with their gear and especially the decon.

Maybe she did, but did not follow the decontamination procedure.

A WHO advisor on Ebola, Peter Piot, has said he's not too surprised by the infection of the Spanish nurse, Teresa Romero.

"The smallest mistake can be fatal," he said. "For example, a very dangerous moment is when you come out of the isolation unit you take off your protective gear, you are full of sweat and so on." Wiping your eyes to get the sweat out of them, he suggested, could lead to transmission.

Professor Piot also said he expected more cases in Europe and the USA.

Swell. :-?

Small, very small price to pay i'd say.

Even more when you consider that HIV/AIDS is still so rampant in Sub-Saharan Africa that it kills around 1.1 million people every year.

Ebola is scary, but in terms of the overall African misery index, it's still small potatoes.

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Breaking News. The Dallas Ebola patient, Eric Thomas Duncan has died.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/texas-e...ry?id=26045360

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev-f...ature=youtu.be

:haha:

Puts things into perspective.

It might help our perspective if the media didn't treat anyone who spent too much time in the toilet after overdoing it on the Atomic Fire Garlic Wings and Fosters Lager as a potential Patient Zero.

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Usefull until some month ago, but if the outbreak of Ebola goes into full scale in Africa the pictures will most suddenly change.

Markus

This paragraph from the Daily Beast about the infected Spanish nurse was rather terrifying--


While it is difficult to believe Western hospitals could be so complacent, one possible explanation is that hospitals can be skeptical when a patient presents with possible symptoms because Ebola is such a rare disease that is difficult to transmit. Here in the United States, most of the suspected cases have turned out to be false alarms.

This doesn't justify Ebola patients' symptoms not getting the attention they deserve, but it does help explain how hospitals have repeatedly botched their handling of new Ebola cases in ways that could allow the disease to spread further. Hopefully the message is getting through that Ebola isn't just for Africa anymore.

Without doubt :yep:

Someone is going for the full Daily Mail Bingo haul:

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