Checked on Google earth and the bombings are just over 400 miles from where I'll be....thankfully.

Turekey is great place for vacation , have fun.

Never been despite trying to get the wife to go for years...then she met a few different sets of friends who told her where the not so commercialised areas were...the rest will soon be history.

Fantastic news. :dead:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/wo...anted=all&_r=0

Politics. Unscrupulous and stupid. :nope:

Israel will celebrate this.

S-300 still set to be delivered.

This sting in NATO's flank and Israel's front will hurt us long since after Assad is gone.

This delivery of missiles oversteps a line, imo, although Mr. Redline in the White House probably has much much longer and wordfull description for it. I also tend to think that it is essential to throw the Russians out there.

Therefore I start to think that although a ground intervention is out of question for me, at least a massive air campaign should be run - especially targetting those missiles, chemicals, and any assembly areas for the incoming transports of S-300.

This is not to help the fundamentalists. It is to prevent having to deal with fundamentalists with modern missiles in the future. Better a badly equipped fundamentalist Syrian regime in the future, than a well-armed fundamentalist regime in the future. - Those anti-ship-missile's range can cover half of the Israeli coast when stationed at southern Syria. Will also have an effect on attempts of the Israeli navy to intercept transports at sea that are suspicious.

More great news. While the Russians have sent naval forces from the Black Sea to the Eastern Mediterranean and just conducted a major exercise, they now have started to shuttle in reinforcements from the pacific fleet as well. A dedicated ASW destroyer and two supply ships have just moored in Limassol, coming from the Pacific. At least two more Pacific fleet units are in transit to the Med.

The Russians are obviously serious about protecting their ally but the acid test will be how serious the west is about aiding the rebels and bringing Assad to the negotiating table.

Do you really believe that this can still be solved at a table...? I don't.:nope:

I do not believe the Russians will even touch this, they have a Jewish population as well and a fair bit of it's own internal problems.

This will go down like Operation Opera, where even the complicit parties (France who built Osirak Reactors ) left it alone out of diplomacy (plus they already got paid)

Now that being said.

I am anti Israeli in most situations, we had no right "awarding" them that land after WW2, because it was taken from someone, something the pro zionists seem to forget.

But I am with them on this, you got the land, keep it, just do it on your own, not the UN, not the USA... Which Israel has proved, they are tough sons of guns.

Just be tough on someone elses taxpayer dollar. Like your own, or another country across from America, that actually brokered the deal.

(Nudges Britain....)

Your turn dude, it was kinda your idea...:up:

No way should we aid the rebels. Did anyone happen to see the video of them executing Assad Loyalists? Oh yea - executed by a faction allied with AQ.....

Putting weapons in their hands will be creating our next Afghanistan.

Welcome to today's version of the Kobayashi Maru....

But it is well known that Kirk cheated the program. Pissed Spock off to no end.

Will Kirk be a hero, or will he be kicked out of the federation for this?

Despite the spin put on it in the news over here I suspect your right.

Well history tells us one thing....we (the west) don't appear to have learned the lesson yet.

Did I miss something or did I just slip into an alternate reality...? :huh:

I cannot imagine currently that the rebels or the ordinary population will accept to negotiate with a mass murderer who has killed thousands and thousands of theirs.

The Jews in Russia, somebody mentioned. Well. Anti-Smeitism is going upwards in Russia as well, that is why many Jews fled and still flee to Israel. Russian Jews' voice are unlikely to change Putin's thought-results.

I was beyond Assad when I saw he was launching gas.

That is right about when Israel jumped in.

Didn't the US just send that crap for brains, murderer Assad some money?

I love and hate my country so much, I love the people, but hate the self serving government.

I bet someone is getting wealthy from this, always the case in perpetual war...

You are most probably right but the question is who?

Someone , somwhere is getting wealthy from about just anything.

The Military Industrial Complex and morticians. Graveyards do excellant business too!

Well it certainly isn't the JobCentre (UK governmental department for the unemployed).

Ask Werner Sombart.

The one where the one rebel assures his passage to Sto-vo-kor by cutting out and eating the heart of an loyalist fighter?

Yea wonderful people yearning for freedom. :roll: