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SubV 10-26-11 08:19 AM

CaptainHaplo

I meant not you, not even US government, but oligarchs behind them. Those who control your and our presidents and run whole world economy.

Rotchshilds, Rockefellers, etc.

Tribesman 10-26-11 08:22 AM

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Yes, I always trust that a video which writes truth in capital letters will enlighten me.
Using semi-fascist Farrakhan as their spokesperson does not raise my interest. A quick check at the video makers YT-page: a truther, wow, who would have thought this. The first link in his friends list (alivera3), leads to a vid about the "Zionist Murder Of Muammar Gaddafi". Yay, there we have it!
Sorry but you are just showing your ignorance and blindness, people like you just don't want to know the truth, you are too quick to dismiss, if you had looked further you would have got to the enlightened teachings about Aliens running the earth, beware the puppeteers.;)
Though it has left me confused, as evil aliens are running the earth are they running NATO or Daffy or both?

MH 10-26-11 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SubV (Post 1774744)
CaptainHaplo

I meant not you, not even US government, but oligarchs behind them. Those who control your and our presidents and run whole world economy.

Rotchshilds, Rockefellers, etc.

Nah............

joegrundman 10-26-11 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SubV (Post 1774744)
Rotchshilds, Rockefellers, etc.

dude, they are so early last century.

what was this thread about again?

Tribesman 10-26-11 12:07 PM

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dude, they are so early last century.
But you can now get it on Youtube

Jimbuna 10-26-11 12:42 PM

I was wondering what the latest position regarding Gaddafis son Saif was:

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Colonel Gaddafi's fugitive son Saif al-Islam today offered to hand himself in to the International Criminal Court in the Hague, according to a Libyan transitional government official.
The London-educated playboy, 39, is the last member of the hated despot’s family still feared to be at large in Libya.
Said and former intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi are proposing to surrender to the International Criminal Court, a senior military official with the National Transitional Council said today.
I must admit to having a second look at this :o

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Observers speculated the brutal demise of his father - who was beaten to a bloody pulp and possibly even sodomised after his capture before getting a bullet in the brain - may have prompted his move.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nal-Court.html

MH 10-26-11 01:01 PM

I wonder if he will make it alive.:hmmm:

Jimbuna 10-26-11 01:06 PM

If the Libyans get to him first...highly unlikely I'd say :DL

mookiemookie 10-26-11 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1774880)
I must admit to having a second look at this :o

Some site I was reading had the entire video of his capture. The part in bold was done with a knife. :dead:

Jimbuna 10-26-11 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1774901)
Some site I was reading had the entire video of his capture. The part in bold was done with a knife. :dead:

Oh heck Mark!!...rather him than me :o

Penguin 10-26-11 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1774746)
Sorry but you are just showing your ignorance and blindness, people like you just don't want to know the truth, you are too quick to dismiss, if you had looked further you would have got to the enlightened teachings about Aliens running the earth, beware the puppeteers.;)
Though it has left me confused, as evil aliens are running the earth are they running NATO or Daffy or both?

I am sorry for being so uneducated :wah:, I will try to learn more of the TROOF. So are the guys from the planet Dune in charge or the Ewoks?
And who killed Bambi? Was it the NATO?
This brings me to the question, was Sid Vicious killed by Daffy, because he played in a band that raised that question?


@mookie: ouch! :o

mookiemookie 10-26-11 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1774955)
Oh heck Mark!!...rather him than me :o

Sic semper tyrannis, eh?

MH 10-26-11 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1774897)
If the Libyans get to him first...highly unlikely I'd say :DL

He probably will be put to rape by 1000 camels.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...0_02aSrUFvcjo1

CaptainHaplo 10-26-11 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SubV (Post 1774744)
CaptainHaplo

I meant not you, not even US government, but oligarchs behind them. Those who control your and our presidents and run whole world economy.

Rotchshilds, Rockefellers, etc.

Ah ok - then I read that wrong. I regret the tone I used.

TLAM Strike 10-26-11 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1774901)
Some site I was reading had the entire video of his capture. The part in bold was done with a knife. :dead:

For those interested...

This article says it was a Bayonet.

:o

I'm reminded of Kipling:
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When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

Krauter 10-26-11 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1774693)
That some non-democratic countries are "bad", some are "good" is not only valid for religious countries: just take a look how the US regards Cuba (badbadbad) vs China (we print our flag stickers there)

Very true. In my opinion, the idea of how "good" or "bad" a country is depends wholly on its citizens. If the citizens are happy, then I can honestly say that I don't think a country is bad. For example, (just an example...) all Cubans that I have met say that they are honestly happy with their country and how it is run. Now I can say I've never been to Cuba, but this is just some Cubans that I have met visiting here for training camps or tournaments, etc.


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The intervention question is a tough one, I wish there were some clear answers and we'd had a working UNO. Till then, we can only see that in the case of Libya the Security Council decidedv to intervene, also with the votes of muslim countries btw.
I don't doubt that the UN did a good job in Libya, both in waiting for the rebels to ask for UN aid, as well as the fact that there were no boots on the ground. In my view, this is how the UN Security forces should act.

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And I see that a islamic-based law shoves their believe system on all the countries inhabitants. For example in the case of Tunesia, the islamists may have gotten a majority, however a democracy is not mob rule. In a working democratic system the rights of the people who did not vote for them must also be respected - and this is the right to believe or not whatever you want, aka freedom of religion.
To me, this is simply a question of who is in charge. If you have hardline religious leaders, then you're going to have hardline religious laws. It all depends on the leaders and how they run the country...

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There is also the point that while some people are happy when their basic needs are fulfilled, others would also like a working jurisdiction that does not allow to randomly take away your shelter and give your house to privileged members of the ruling party.
And, as previously stated, I can not see how minority rights are protected in a theocracy.
Excellent point.



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The power that each individual allows religion to have over his own life. The interesting aspect of religion is that religion is always an individual thing, however people regard it as some kind of collective belief system.
Any religion has its sub-sections, shiites, baptists, hasedi, etc, etc. So who is right? Even among believers of the same sect, are massive, fundamental differences in certain questions.
And therein lies the problem, in my view, of a theocratically lead nation. You can't have on single ruler because there is always going to be strife between the different religious sects. In my opinion, something similar to a council, with multiple representatives, each representing different religious sects present within the country would be better suited to govern a theocratic nation rather than one single figurehead.

Jimbuna 10-27-11 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1774994)
Sic semper tyrannis, eh?

Most definitely!!

CCIP 10-27-11 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1775073)
For those interested...

This article says it was a Bayonet.

:o

I'm reminded of Kipling:

Ouch.

Yeah, I think with those videos I can safely retract my skepticism over Gaddafi being lynched. Seems pretty obvious with those videos.

CaptainHaplo 10-27-11 07:43 AM

Yet this simply shows the barbarity of those replacing him.

Of course, a government who wants nothing more than to be more extreme than the last - can we really be suprised?

CCIP 10-27-11 07:51 AM

In fairness, I'd be cautious calling it a government or tying his treatment to the NTC. Those who captured him were not by any definition a government, but a band of rebels, who honestly didn't seem to be very much under anyone's control. I don't think his treatment had anything to do with orders, just personal retribution.

Too early to talk about a government yet, so I wouldn't pass judgment on them at this point. There really isn't a working government there at all at the moment.


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