I have watched the replays over and over and still think 100% Vettels fault.

Sure Webber has had his moments, ie Australia, but that was an ill timed lunge up the inside and out braked himself.

Watching Vettel he twitches right. Webber was not obliged under any circumstances to give. It was miles before the braking zone. I'm sure had Vettel stayed straight Webber would have backed off a la Hamilton and him later on.

Yep. :yep: And to Webber's credit he did admit in a BBC interviw prior to the Turkey race that his dodgy move on Lewis in Melbourne was 30/70 with the 30 being him or something like that.

Good piece by Martin Brundle today about RBR management and the Vettel move calling it all exactly as it is from someone who has raced in F1 for 12 years over 150 races: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8714410.stm

Hamilton does the business on his last run to secure pole position. Well done Lewis and blitzes Button.

Another great day for Webber as he does his much fancied young teamate. Now leads Vettel in quali 5-3 and continues to show the speed he has. :rock:

Schumi didn't even make it in to Q3.

Hamilton for the win, Webber 2nd and Alonso to complete the podium hopefully.

I agree....but not so positively :DL

Alonso would be better in the podium with this Ferrari rather than on it ;)

Well done to Lewis and Jenson in the Mclaren team....a fine one two :yeah:

Interesting race.

Once Jenson got past Alsono I just turned it off as I couldn't bear to watch.

Was worried Jenson would get overtaken by Alonso.

I think McLaren have closed the gap with RBR. We will see at Silverstone though.

This is so funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zf40OzfwOo

Cool.:D

Crackin ad :yeah:

Lewis should have done something with his hair before they started filming :DL

It actually looks quite natural and not set up. They probably knew the team were going to walk off but I bet they did spend hours putting it together.

Yeh, looks pretty natural. Tho, would've loved if in the end the whole car would've just come apart. :DL

:DL

Love the ending, <odd sound as they push the car> "It works." :haha:

Well, this has really been too much ... it is obvious how Lewis "Cheatington" will go into history, like Schumacher, as a driver whose talent made it unnecessary to cheat and yet he did. The pace car incident in Valencia has been one of the darkest days in Britain's sports history. What happened to the good old tough and fair british drivers like Mansell, who won like gentlemen on the track? Lewis should have lost his position to Alonso in the pits (Nose wing change) and have finished 10th after him, or 9th if managing to overtake the Ferrari. But in any case, he should have finished behind the true, british gentleman driver Jenson Button, who would be now leading the championship.

What happened today is shameful, disgusting and extremely unfair. Again, like with the famous crane incindent and many other similar situations, Lewis bends the rules and wins by that. Now the FIA will amend the rules and ensure that anyone overtaking the safety car will not get more benefit than from respecting the rules ... AFTER the harm is done, and Cheatington has benefitted from it. Hearing him say in the press conference "I don't remember much about it" -after breaking to slow down the followers, and then accelerating to pass the safety car "in extremis" was one of the low -points of Cheatington's career, unless he manages to outdo himself- Which wouldn't amaze me. Go on Lewis, Schumi threw a deserved champion of the track once and cheated to win ... you can beat him.


:nope:

I take it your not too keen on Hamilton then? :DL

Of course not, he's spanish :DL

I'd say that he and the rest of Spain would be a lot happier if Hamilton wasn't in Formula 1.:03:

Hamilton made a very stupid mistake for not erring on the side of caution with the Safety Car coming out of the Pit-Lane.

What made it even more maddening for Alonso was that Hamilton's drive-thru penalty didn't even cost him a place as Kobayashi, who was then in third, was so far behind.

Of course, Kobayashi passing Alonso on the 2nd to last lap wouldn't have improved the latter's mood, either.

Button may be a gentleman, but even Stirling Moss thinks he's too nice to be a proper World Champion - a selfish b****r like Hamilton probably has that extra drive to be a multiple winner like Schumi.

Speaking of the latter, he shouldn't have come back - he's not the driver he once was.

Mike.

Yup, but I'm no Alonso fan. I was Kimi Raikkonen fan until he left F1, and now I am a Jenson Button fan. I respect Cheatington for his talent, and reckon he is the fastest guy on the grid, as well as enjoy his racing moves, but I really hate seeing cheating, be it Lewis or anyone else. In this case, this could be a championship worth cheat, and we will only know at the end of the year. But consider the case: Had Lewis and Alonso entered the pit at the same time, Alonso would have passed Lewis in the boxes (Faster stop, no need toc hange nosecone) and that would have ensured that Lewis would have ended far behind Button. So Jenson would have gotten 2nd place easily and would be leading teh championship clearly now.

The bottom message of this all is sad: It pays off to cheat :nope:

Yes, that was pathetic. Almost as bad as the track and the race itself.

Lots of disappointment all round except for Vettel. Webber's accident looked nasty but glad he was OK. A testament to the safety of the cars now. Webber does seem prone to these brain farts now and then that cost him races.