again agreed!

To put it in a Submarine sim perspective, the aircraft on a CV are its raison d'être, as the torpedoes are for the submarine. Any attempt at CVs needs the air operations at least as complex as the TDC, torpedo models, and indeed AI that fights this weapon system.

ok, now, is it possible to make the real hull strenght of all surface ship in this mod?

Damage models start impacting, well, everything. The damage of all the weapons needs to be looked at... it's complex. Observer's mod for merchant shipping has moved on to warships, so I'd expect to see a comprehensive solution from that end at some point.

The stock damage system has hitpoints, so at a certain point, any weapon doing enough damage to actually do any damage (get past armor, etc) will eventually sink the target, it's just a matter of how many rounds. This is why in stock DDs are so ridiculously easy to sink with submarine deck guns and AA, you hit them until their hitpoints drop to 0, then BOOM!

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ok, i have an idea, this mod would be like natural sinking mechanism,
the hitpoint of all ship are 300000 and they can only sink by flooding...
if you make ennough hole in the hull, the ship sink...
semi-realistik

and for the weapon damage, check on google for the weapon strenght of any ship, ex : the main weapon of the BB bismark.
you need to look at the penetration of this gun at a XX km. ( i don't know what is the size of the bismark main gun, but ill say 300mm )
if the penetration is 400mm at 15 km,
make a little calculation and you'll have the weapon strenght of all ship,
ex a gun that is 150mm (size) will make penetration on a 200 mm hull at 15 km


i don't know if it is possible, but its just an idea...
maybe the physics are more difficult than that.

Im already implmenting the non HP style of damage model on the ships im making damage models for , the easiest way of doing the weapon balance is changing armor values , as the guns are overall too powerful but compared to each other they are ok

Observer has done this HP wise.

Of course, should you mess with the warships, they might not work well with torpedoes.

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When someone mentioned the gun ranges, i think it was ivank.. I've done a small cfg altering mod that changes the gun ranges drastically. AI Fires at around 15km while player can engage at 16-17km ranges. Makes the battles lot more interesting, though i haven't updated it for a while, mostly to make the crew able to spot targets at longer ranges, but stock settings allow you to lock targets at around 18-19km i think.. :roll:

But yeah, if the thing isn't done already for this mod, i can provide this little alteration.

That is an excellent idea. In most battles, ships would fire dozens of rounds for every hit, whereas in the SH3 series the battles end too quickly b/c of the artificially close range. IMO a more drawn-out battle is much more dramatic than the usual 5-minute slugfest that we get...

One question about the diesel animation...will the animation be toggled on and off based on the surface state of the uboat?

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BTW - for the german raiders, how about including an upgrade/technology to simulate disguises (like the one for "Orion" above)? It could be equipped just like how you equip better weapons & radar for subs. Once enabled it could suppress the detection abilities of enemy units' sensors, simulating them being fooled by your neutral paint scheme. I know this is already possible for U-Boats with the rubber coating that impedes sonar - maybe you could dig around in the files and create a corresponding trick to impede visual sensors...

^^^ that is a great idea. Lateral thinking in action. :up:

Yes, that's a vary good Idea Iabc.:yep:

Do any of you guys know what files control the rubber coating in SH3 (and/or SH4)? I found it mentioned in Basic.cfg but I'm sure there are additional files. The entries in Basic.cfg seem to be concerned with availability - I would like to find out what controls the actual effect on ships' visual sensors.

Thats a great idea IABL! My team and I will look into, if you can help in anyway that would be great!

And any more suggestions would be nice.