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butcher 12-12-09 04:56 PM

Hi everyone , been to Snegiri last month and took a couple of pics so i figured this would be the right place to post them cause we all love tanks, don't we :yep:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/024-4.jpg

Chucky 12-12-09 04:59 PM

Wow! Some great pics there :up:
There are some holes in that Tiger that must have really ruined the crews day for sure.
Thanks for posting.

butcher 12-13-09 05:23 AM

Actually this tiger was abondened by the crew and the soviets used it for target practice , breaks my heart when i see the condition of this Tiger , they could have used a propper cammo pattern and the muzzle is not original but there is another mid war Tiger in the Kubinka museum, that one is in perfect condition, King Tiger as well and many more but as i am not russian i do need a special permit to visit that museum but i will take care of that and post some great pics soon :salute:

Chucky 12-13-09 09:21 AM

Could you see inside the Tiger? I was just wondering what those holes looked like from the inside and how much equipment was left in it (if any)?
I am going to the Tank Museum at Bovington (UK) this spring/summer to see their Tiger in action.:yeah:

butcher 12-13-09 10:05 AM

This is the view from the commanders cupola, bit rusty but you can still tell the serial numbers !!!
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/020-1.jpg

ArmorEtr 12-14-09 04:07 AM

Nice pics man, thanks for posting them. :yeah:

butcher 12-14-09 06:48 AM

Thanks, here are a couple more closeups ,btw, tried to snatch those tracks lying by the Tiger, you wouldn't believe how damn heavy they are , could barely move them :har:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/025-1.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 06:53 AM

Emergency turret exit hatch !
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/029-2.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 06:58 AM

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/027-4.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:06 AM

Tiger exhaust system detail !
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ruppen/028.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:11 AM

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/032-1.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:17 AM

Tiger track detail !
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ruppen/033.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:23 AM

SU-85
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/049-3.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:28 AM

There is another SU-85 and a T-34/76 in mint condition near my house, will take a walk and shoot some pics but its like -24 right now , no wonder the germans lost the war on the ostfront :wah:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ruppen/042.jpg

butcher 12-14-09 07:38 AM

ISU-152 , Tiger crews were very careful not to miss this selfpropelled gun with its 152 mm because it could penetrate the tiger armor with no problem but anyway the Tiger almost always came out as a winner in combat duels due to its deadly 88 mm gun and their very effective crews :rock:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...ppen/045-2.jpg

ZeeWolf 12-14-09 01:49 PM

Your pictures are fantastic
 
Hello butcher,
Your pictures are fantastic. Do you have more?
And of course butcher the Germans and Her allies lost the war,
we all know that.
However (that being a given) the question becomes how they lost?
You see my interest in WW2 has a philosophical component, and that
being: All wars begin with lies.
Demanding the truth first before all else. But this takes courage to
stand against enormous "knee jerk" pressure. I never forget the fact
that Governments want war first then the people are lead in to them,
never the reverse.

Best regards,
ZeeWolf

ArmorEtr 12-14-09 03:00 PM

Ahhhh love the ISU-152 pic with that monster gun, one of my favs. I sometimes try and imagine seeing these armored beasts rolling up to my trench. Very scary since most were just armed with a bolt-action rifle way back then. :dead:

Although that thing was not exactly ideal for tank duels with the long reload times. Didn't they have to load a powder charge for the shell?

P.S. Is there a JagdTiger there?

butcher 12-14-09 03:17 PM

Thanks for the comments guys, just wanted to cover the tanks that are included in the game with a little extra !
The ISU-152 crews didn't use any powder when reloading ,no Jagdtigers here but in the Kubinka tank museum they have all the goodies and even the only remaining Maus super heavy german tank !
I have been there last year but i will take new pics, promise not less than hundred pics, closeups and all that and i will be visiting the tank museum in Israel as well , they have a perfect Stug IV, Pzkw IV etc , the only thing is that all the tanks at display there are in the desert paint scheme !
I will post more pics tomorrow and thanks again for the comments !

difool2 12-29-09 12:03 AM

Looking to spend some post-Christmas funds-I find tank sims rather appealing, so some questions:

Any major bugs unresolved a year after release?

Can you run multiplayer on a LAN? Is MP running smoothly now?

Are there lots of user-made scenarios now?

frinik 12-29-09 11:57 PM

Stug IV in Israel?
 
Hello Butcher,

I read your post with interest and I liked your pics!

Re the Stug IV at the tank museum in Isreal?I knew they had a Panzer IV which they took from the inept Syrians( talk about giving these clown such a wonderful tank!) in 1967.I also know the Syrians got the PzIV from the French who got them as war booty after 1945.What about the Stug IV did the Israelis capture them from the Syrians as well?

Cheers!


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