well, subman has been crusading for quite a while now ? why hasnt he been banned ?
Flamingboat did exactly the same as subman yet only he gets banned
that is indeed..lame

How many times exactly has Subman used the infamous N-word and argued semantics about its meaning and spelling with a staff member?

I do not agree with all the stuff that is said here, but when someone starts to toss around racial slurs and argues its meaning, the gloves ought to come off.

And, imo, that's what FB's stay in the brig was for. Not for his political opinion, but for his language and disrespect for the staff and forum members.

And here I thought I was the only one reading those posts 10 days ago. Thank you Thomen for your excellent memory and pointing out that the end result for Flamingboat concerned exactly what you have stated. Hat off to you sir!

So, what are you saying? Racial slurs are ok?

As you wish to view it. Non-the-less, it needed to be addressed.

I think the moderation here is pretty even handed compared to other forums, but the beauty part Mikhayl is that if you disagree there isn't anyone forcing you to stay here... :cool:

Offtopic for a bit, I've bolded one part of the statement you made - I agree completely with that. Living opposite one hasn't really improved my opinion. as for the other, well the majorityu of muslims are not terrorists, but there is no ignoring the fact that the majority of terrorists are muslims (in some way shape or form). Then, to complicate it, you got the lovely expression of "one mans terrorist, anothers freedom fighter" which can be applied often.

Anyways, back onto topic now, newspapers here are overwhelmingly supporting the Democrats' campaign, it is almost a perfect repetition of last years election here, when Howard got the boot.

Even more locally, the ACT election (tiny tiny state, consists of a city and mnot much more) has shown again the way media have a seemingly natural bias towards the left, with several outright lies being voiced in the leadup but being pushed aside and ignored by all medias.

A big part of me things this is the way it must go, everythjing seems to be cyclical, after vietnam both Oz and the US were over war, wanted a change, and settled into the feelgood spirit of the late 70s. Maybe its time for that again?

Well I'm not an American but I took the Barak Obama test, the result:
Interesting!:yep:

This whole issue about the presidency is a RACE war for power not about every americans best interests. A stupid black and white issue.:nope: Totally insane really guys.. :confused:

I rather someone who can help repair the country. Theirs so many real issues that need to be fixed and you guys are voting for skin color.:roll:

Very intelligent choices wow. :-?

Trouble is Wolfhunter, the people who would do the country good don't get the monetary backing as they aren't sellouts, and they get treated by the media as wacky weirdos. If the media would just stick to the facts, instead of running with a partial or inaccurate statement and story most of the time, then maybe the folks here would have a better idea of what the candidates really stand for.

wow, what a cesspool this thread is

:lol: :lol: Yep, x-rated to the max unfortunately. :damn:

Nothing against Obama grandmother, and my best wishes to her, but does anybody else think it's a rather curious coincident that Obama heads to Hawaii on the day he is ordered by Court to produce his Birth Certificate?

Apparently some guy named Berg sued Obama on the notion that he is not qualified to be President because it is not yet proven that he is a natural born citizen.

Why didn't he just hand over the document?

EDIT:
Found this: http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal...083/281573/27/

It is unlikely that the judge is going to sign the notion as it is presented.

Thats interesting reading.

Not from a pro- or anti- obama (though I'm sure many are interested from that perspective) but more for my fascination with legalese!

And the use of Esquire! Wow!:sunny:

Just to make it clear, that order is only one drafted by Berg to make it easier for the Judge to order it, if he so chooses. This, evidently, is a common practice when filing suit. You can find more out about the suit at America's Right. The order has not, to my knowledge, been signed by the judge yet.

It is, however, very coincidental that Obama announced his visit to Hawaii a few hours after a suit was filed in the Hawaiin court to demand that Obama's real long-form birth certificate (not the Certificate of Live Birth that is on the internet on Obama's site) be released to the author of an anti-Obama book. That lawsuit is available at http://www.contrariancommentary.com/...4/Default.aspx .

I've been watching the Berg suit to see where it goes, and am beginning to wonder if it will be held until after the election. There is some evidence to support Berg's supposition that Obama was born in Kenya and his birth later registered as a home birth in Hawaii. There is also some evidence that he may have lost his citizenship when he was enrolled in school in Indonesia and obtained an Indonesian passport (which he used while in his 20s).

There was a 20 minute Q&A with Berg on the Michael Savage radio show. I found it quite interesting. My only thought for all to ponder, if the lady that raised him is on her death bed, why did he only go there by himself?

This is the only thing that has worried me about the candidacy for president.

If it be true that he is ineligible to run for the position, and is allowed, then it is just another usurpation of the Constitution that they all who run for the position swear an oath to uphold, protect, and defend.

If Mr. Berg has proof to the contrary that the man is not an eligible claimant to run for the presidency, then it must be obeyed that he step down from the pulpit, and relinquish the candidacy for the presidency on behalf of the Democratic Party, and let someone who is a citizen take his place.

If the evidence points to the fact the plaintiff has no grounds through proof, then let leave the man be and let the race go on.

Getting a birth certificate is easy to do. If he cannot or will not there is only one reason why...

This I do not disagree with, but I'm willing to wait to see what turns up, and if it is true either way.

Mmm... He was not born! :know: