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Digital_Trucker 08-20-08 10:43 AM

Yep, played around with them some, but were really hoping to implement twin 50s (which the game doesn't have). We were going to use them as more of a surface attack weapon than AA, though. They may still get into the mix when we get to the point of completely remodeling the above decks part of the boat and can make room for some. Thanks for the link, though.:up: Interesting thread.

peabody 08-22-08 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Guys, I'm afraid someone overtook you on the job :

:D;)

Maybe if you guys ask nice, they would let you use some of the graphics.:lol:

Peabody

Digital_Trucker 08-22-08 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peabody
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Guys, I'm afraid someone overtook you on the job :

:D;)

Maybe if you guys ask nice, they would let you use some of the graphics.:lol:

Peabody

Thanks for the info guys:up: I guess I'll have to dust of DOSBox and see if I can't get some ideas from the game:p

Demon777 08-25-08 06:18 AM

I haven't tested this playable PT yet, but the screens are perfect! Amazing job gyus! :up: Is this 'mod' compatible with JMSGE? And is the PT available in career mode?

P.S. I hope some day there'll appear playable US destroyers, cruisers and battleships (like Iowa)


Regards,

D777

Digital_Trucker 08-25-08 08:40 AM

Hey, Demon. Those answers would be yes and not yet. It definitely JSGME compatible (I can't imagine a mod other than an application that shouldn't be JSGME ready:up:). And nope, it's not available for use in a career yet. It can be used in any of the single missions (a couple come with it) that start on the surface. That's part of the reason that it's not available for career mode yet. New missions need to be written specifically for the boat (since it really didn't serve the same functions as a sub or have the same range) and the whole career put together.

We're hoping that these things come together soon, but we still have a lot of work to do on the model itself and the damage model and all sorts of things that we haven't encountered yet. Right now, it's more of an interesting toy until we get the rest of it put together.

Thanks for the interest and enjoy it when you get to play with it:up:

Demon777 08-25-08 11:21 AM

Thanks Trucker!

Hope the rest of this job will be done with no bugs etc. Playable German pocket battleship is a good 'parrallel' example :up:

So I wish everyone who works at US/GB playable surface ships to finish their job successfully. If I could provide any assistance, feel free to contact me. Actually I'm not a modder, but I'd be glad to help. BTW, recently I found an amazing site of Naval warfare/industry

http://ship.bsu.by/

Unfortunately it seems to be completely in Russian, BUT if you'd like to get some info from there, I can help to translate the needed issues!

Brgds,
D777

Digital_Trucker 08-25-08 07:27 PM

Thanks, Demon. We may have to take you up on that translation offer. I can barely read a little German, I don't stand a chance with Russian:D

Buddahaid 08-31-08 12:17 PM

Looking at this and dowloaded it and call me stupid, but, what are you opening the dat file in the documentation with?

Buddahaid

Digital_Trucker 08-31-08 12:47 PM

Silly me, I used the documentation folder as a place to save backups of files as I was changing them. I should have removed it from the folder before I zipped it all up. If you really want to look at it, get skwas' S3D, but there's no documentation in the file. It's just a game file. Sorry for the confusion.:oops:

sqk7744 10-02-08 01:05 PM

Outstanding work DT! :know:

woofiedog 12-01-08 05:25 AM

Any news on this great mod? :)

Charlielima 12-06-08 11:32 AM

Ya whats the latest news? I am currently honning my MTB skippering skills on a Schnell Boote in SH3. Even if the Elco boat has 2 x 40 mike mike bofars guns, I will be very hesitant to get in a gunfight with the german boat. That single 37mm flak gun can really impair the intent and functionability of a laminated wood motor torpedo boat.
CL

woofiedog 12-06-08 02:26 PM

Yes the S-Boat does have a advantage over the plywood Elco & Higgins boats... but sometimes it's the skipper at the helm that counts the most. LoL :lol:

http://www.warship.org/images/PT_Boats_and_tender.jpg

Hylander_1314 12-06-08 04:07 PM

Actually there wasn't a whole lot of plywood. The outer hull had mahoganey planks that went up at a 45 degree angle, then a layer of waterproffing glue and fine aircraft linen, and on top of that another layer of mahoganey planking again placed at 45 degrees perpendicular to the inner layer.

This is a good video in 3 oarts about PT Boat construction, which shows they didn't have "planked" and caulked decks. A good film, and it's in color!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8tQP3s9DIQ

Sailor Steve 12-06-08 04:31 PM

Great videos! They left a few things out though. At one point it mentions the British wanting the boats as well, when in fact the Royal Navy invented the Motor Torpedo Boat, and had their own in production at the time. When playing German in the Atlantic the MTBs met should mostly be the 73-foot Vosper. Also, the ELCO boats were based on a powerboat design by an Englishman, Hubert Scott-Payne.
http://www.steelnavy.com/GMSElco77.htm

I think there's some confusion on the hulls. Yes, the frame was mahogany planking, and the hulls were mahogany shaved into veneer, then glued together to make a heavy sheet, but isn't that what plywood is?

Charlielima 12-07-08 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woofiedog
Yes the S-Boat does have a advantage over the plywood Elco & Higgins boats... but sometimes it's the skipper at the helm that counts the most. LoL :lol:

http://www.warship.org/images/PT_Boats_and_tender.jpg

Bitchin' pic Woofie.
A PT chasing me with the 40 mike mike on the bow, and the 2 twin 50 cals Barking would quite likely " End my patrol"
CL

cgjimeneza 12-08-08 04:42 PM

UPDATE?
 
just wondering if it will be done in time for xmas....

:)

Carlos

Digital_Trucker 12-08-08 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
just wondering if it will be done in time for xmas....

:)

Carlos

Which year?:D Sorry, we haven't gotten any further with it. It kinda slipped through the cracks in my head:doh: and sqk's been busy with work.

cgjimeneza 12-08-08 09:59 PM

not xmas??....
 
then how about we write it down for easter next year???
will make a note on my Palm calendar
:D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker
Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
just wondering if it will be done in time for xmas....

:)

Carlos

Which year?:D Sorry, we haven't gotten any further with it. It kinda slipped through the cracks in my head:doh: and sqk's been busy with work.


Digital_Trucker 12-09-08 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgjimeneza
then how about we write it down for easter next year???
will make a note on my Palm calendar
:D

Okeydoke, I'll write it on my Palm calendar, too, if I can find room

http://addanimage.com/content/funny/.../Picture10.jpg


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