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The Noob 02-05-07 03:52 PM
This is bull****. It cant be true, its too crazy.

SUBMAN1 02-05-07 03:56 PM
Are there really people in this world that are this retarded to think that something different happened on 9/11? That is about as nice a thing as I have to say about them.

-S

nelson1985 02-05-07 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
i saw the video but i think lose changes 2 is better.

ASWnut101 02-05-07 03:57 PM
Those are still pretty big holes, considering the Pentagon's construction.


And the video thing is pretty weak. It's way too low quality to even tell what exactly is in the picture. I can tell you one thing, that is no Air to Ground missile. None of the AGM's in the U.S. inventory have a terminal stage rocket booster and are that big. in fact, as I had already pointed out, that is not a missile at all. And through the quality of the video, let me ask this: What was the security camera's position in relation to the flight path of the inbound jet? you can make things look deceptively smaller than they appear if viewed from the right angle.

02-05-07 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
I will take your vid on face value that it was a conspiracy to bring down WTC and attack the pentagon.

I have only one question. Who/whom is responsible.

elite_hunter_sh3 02-05-07 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Noob
This is bull****. It cant be true, its too crazy.
whats dissapointing is you cant handle the truth because if you find out you reliase the government is not the type of government you think it is.

FOR MORE HARD CONCRETE EVIDENCE

http://web.archive.org/web/200212042...n/pentagon.htm

comparing a boeing el al flight which crashed into a aprtment building it was a 747 weihing around 600,000 pounds, the 757 is aorund max takeoff weight 250,000 ish lbs http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757...f_200tech.html

the boeing 747 demolished a good portion of the building. now look at the pentagon and the small measly holes it created.

nelson1985 02-05-07 03:59 PM
http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/

nelson1985 02-05-07 04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W21MutyXOew

elite_hunter_sh3 02-05-07 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
I will take your vid on face value that it was a conspiracy to bring down WTC and attack the pentagon.

I have only one question. Who/whom is responsible.
that unfortunately is very hard to solve. a few reasons,
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building,

most solutions point to the US government because they used 9/11 as an excuse totake on afghanistan and Iraq, they have Uk in europe so they needed a country to control in middle east because they had europe(UK) and asia (south korea, japan) covered. some solutions point out to the israeli government for orchestrating the attack because they wanted more land in the middle east and wanted the americans to do their battles for them,

some say it was china
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...4/143618.shtml
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25680

personally i think america either worked with israeli government OR the israelies used the american government while the americans think they are doing a good thing. the thing is they thought they got away with 9/11 (which they made most people believe their story) but they didnt get away with iraq they are losing in iraq and its becoming next vietnam, they got away with 9/11 and now bush career and reputation is ruined beause of israels plan to get more land /use US as patsy in the middle east.

BUT the isralies might not be involved, it could only be the US until someone digs up all the truth (which might never happened) who knows.

ASWnut101 02-05-07 04:12 PM
Ok, nelson, if the aircraft didn't bring down the towers then what did?

And PLEASE actually answer this question and the other one of "Who did it?"

ASWnut101 02-05-07 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building

The fire insulation on the support beams were over 40 years old! And, no, an aircraft the size of a 757 would bring down the towers, "military grade" explosives or not. 11,000 gallons of Jet-A, which IS very hot buring plus 200,000 pounds of re-enforced aluminum tube in the shape of a bullet is very damaging.

elite_hunter_sh3 02-05-07 04:19 PM
METAL MELTS AT 2600 F normal open air fires cannot burn that hot only explosives/thermite can melt steel PLZ WATCH THE VIDEO ASWnut 101
melting point proof:http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html
JET A-1
Flash point: 38 °C
Autoignition temperature: 210 °C
Freezing point: -47 °C (-40 °C for JET A)
Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C (500-599 °F)
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB and it will explain the fires and the metal and fuel an impacts

nelson1985 02-05-07 04:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASWnut101
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building
The fire insulation on the support beams were over 40 years old! And, no, an aircraft the size of a 757 would bring down the towers, "military grade" explosives or not. 11,000 gallons of Jet-A, which IS very hot buring plus 200,000 pounds of re-enforced aluminum tube in the shape of a bullet is very damaging.
did a plane hit building 7?

ASWnut101 02-05-07 04:25 PM
no, it only had one of the big towers fall on it:roll:

02-05-07 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
I will take your vid on face value that it was a conspiracy to bring down WTC and attack the pentagon.

I have only one question. Who/whom is responsible.
that unfortunately is very hard to solve. a few reasons,
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building,

most solutions point to the US government because they used 9/11 as an excuse totake on afghanistan and Iraq, they have Uk in europe so they needed a country to control in middle east because they had europe(UK) and asia (south korea, japan) covered. some solutions point out to the israeli government for orchestrating the attack because they wanted more land in the middle east and wanted the americans to do their battles for them,

some say it was china
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...4/143618.shtml
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25680

personally i think america either worked with israeli government OR the israelies used the american government while the americans think they are doing a good thing. the thing is they thought they got away with 9/11 (which they made most people believe their story) but they didnt get away with iraq they are losing in iraq and its becoming next vietnam, they got away with 9/11 and now bush career and reputation is ruined beause of israels plan to get more land /use US as patsy in the middle east.

BUT the isralies might not be involved, it could only be the US until someone digs up all the truth (which might never happened) who knows.
As I recall Bin Laden and his associates took reponsibility/credit for the 9/11 attacks. Why would an individual who had some political power,albiet in a third world country, admit to an act such as this against the United States?

elite_hunter_sh3 02-05-07 04:28 PM
yes but it cleary withstood the attacks because it had same design as the WTC

http://media.popularmechanics.com/im...11-wtc7-lg.jpg

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/uncovering...tc7-arrows.jpg

http://www.american-buddha.com/astevejoneswtc3.jpg * WTC 7 is in the background.

ASWnut101 02-05-07 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
METAL MELTS AT 2600 F normal open air fires cannot burn that hot only explosives/thermite can melt steel PLZ WATCH THE VIDEO ASWnut 101
melting point proof:http://education.jlab.org/qa/meltingpoint_01.html
JET A-1
Flash point: 38 °C
Autoignition temperature: 210 °C
Freezing point: -47 °C (-40 °C for JET A)
Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C (500-599 °F)
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB and it will explain the fires and the metal and fuel an impacts

Ok, so you're suggesting that a bunch of men, carring countless sacks of thermite grenades and charges somehow snuck into the core of the building, placed them on over 110 floors of building, and timed it perfectly with a terrorist suicide attack on them, without EVER being caught on video tape from the numerous security cameras throughout the building, not to mention the security force there.:hmm:

elite_hunter_sh3 02-05-07 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
I will take your vid on face value that it was a conspiracy to bring down WTC and attack the pentagon.

I have only one question. Who/whom is responsible.
that unfortunately is very hard to solve. a few reasons,
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building,

most solutions point to the US government because they used 9/11 as an excuse totake on afghanistan and Iraq, they have Uk in europe so they needed a country to control in middle east because they had europe(UK) and asia (south korea, japan) covered. some solutions point out to the israeli government for orchestrating the attack because they wanted more land in the middle east and wanted the americans to do their battles for them,

some say it was china
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...4/143618.shtml
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25680

personally i think america either worked with israeli government OR the israelies used the american government while the americans think they are doing a good thing. the thing is they thought they got away with 9/11 (which they made most people believe their story) but they didnt get away with iraq they are losing in iraq and its becoming next vietnam, they got away with 9/11 and now bush career and reputation is ruined beause of israels plan to get more land /use US as patsy in the middle east.

BUT the isralies might not be involved, it could only be the US until someone digs up all the truth (which might never happened) who knows.
As I recall Bin Laden and his associates took reponsibility/credit for the 9/11 attacks. Why would an individual who had some political power,albiet in a third world country, admit to an act such as this against the United States?
keep in mind that US helped Bin laden during soviet invasion of afghanistan, bin laden family had major economic power in saudi arabia and states, and since the americans helped him he owed them something, if america wanted bin laden caught he would already been caught a long time ago, but looky now hes still alive and kickin it. they got al zarqawi in iraq because they wanted to catch him to keep morale up. y isnt bin laden caught instead they go for some other lower level leader in iraq.

nelson1985 02-05-07 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
Quote:
Originally Posted by waste gate
Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3
ok if you want to see hard concrete evidence of the conspiracy watch this whole video (mostly WTC) if they had the balls to bring down 2 110 stories towers of steel and concrete they can do that to the pentagon

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12003&hl=en-GB

watch the entire video if you want proof of what happened.
I will take your vid on face value that it was a conspiracy to bring down WTC and attack the pentagon.

I have only one question. Who/whom is responsible.
that unfortunately is very hard to solve. a few reasons,
to do this type of attack and bring down the WTC you need military grade explosives to bring down those towers, you needed to have to place those bombs/explosives inside the building,

most solutions point to the US government because they used 9/11 as an excuse totake on afghanistan and Iraq, they have Uk in europe so they needed a country to control in middle east because they had europe(UK) and asia (south korea, japan) covered. some solutions point out to the israeli government for orchestrating the attack because they wanted more land in the middle east and wanted the americans to do their battles for them,

some say it was china
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...4/143618.shtml
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25680

personally i think america either worked with israeli government OR the israelies used the american government while the americans think they are doing a good thing. the thing is they thought they got away with 9/11 (which they made most people believe their story) but they didnt get away with iraq they are losing in iraq and its becoming next vietnam, they got away with 9/11 and now bush career and reputation is ruined beause of israels plan to get more land /use US as patsy in the middle east.

BUT the isralies might not be involved, it could only be the US until someone digs up all the truth (which might never happened) who knows.
As I recall Bin Laden and his associates took reponsibility/credit for the 9/11 attacks. Why would an individual who had some political power,albiet in a third world country, admit to an act such as this against the United States?
:rotfl:which bin laden your talking about the fat one in the video?:rotfl:

ASWnut101 02-05-07 04:36 PM
We can't exactly invade Pakistan....They are part of the U.N. and are "Allies" (If you can call them that)


Yeah, Bin Laden owes us so much that he declares a Jihad on the U.S. and on Israel.:roll:


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