Criticism is one thing...but saying you were "...bored with SH3 when it first came out" is just provocative and insulting, I find. I'm not a fan-boy...anywhere close. But have some respect...you know, you don't go to someones house and say "...thanks for dinner...by the way, you overcooked the roast beef and your husband smells". :roll:

Personally I find a big similarity with IL-2 and SH3. They are both the best (most authentic) computer games there are for their areas.
Both can be booring if you disregard the know-how tactics and what have you beneath the surface (no pun intended).
So stop being silly about it boys.

No game out of the box is complete IMHO. Try a mod, feel the difference.

For those that do find it boring, change your gameplay, have one career as really serious with all the realism etc., and the other rigged out for just plain fun, eg uboat speed 50knots surfaced, 20knots submerged, really rough seas everyday or calm seas throughout the entire patrol :D . AI are hardcore nazi's with an eye like an eagle and aim like King Nimrod (Nimrod? Ahh yeah Nimrod, one of the most famous archers back in the babylon days... ok nevermind). Anyways with "timetravellers minitweak" you can do many things to the game i have my IXB doing 40knots surface 20 submerged, yet i have upped the AI radar and Sonar to spot me at 15000metres instead of the normal 2 or 3 thousand - not good if im cruising with time compression up! :D But have you ever seen a IXB dived when hes doing 40knots its like if you blink your miss it, very quick and ya gotta be careful as she dives on a very steep angle! Yet fun to watch and chuckle with evil grin when you know the bomber that has spotted you on the surface hasn't a chance in hell of getting you when your diving with a speed of
40k. :rock:

Finally, a voice of reason:yep:

I Love SH3 simple as that
 

SH3 Great game, great mods, great graphics etc!!!

It seems most of the gripes about the game are from folks who are critical of the speed factor, i.e. the time it takes to get anywhere or do anything. Maybe these guys should not be playing a sub game but should be into first person shooters or flight sims. Subs dont travel very fast and the whole undersea war is about stealth, deduction and tactics, with a few big bangs from time to time.

SH3 is a great game, one of the finest availble, I'm not sure of many other games with such a dedicated and creative band of modders and players still hard at it well over a year after its release. Go the modders!!

Having said that I wonder at all the fuss re the Pacific version or SH4. I really am curious as to why any one would bother with a sub sim in this theatre. A suface ship sim for this theatre of the war, based on the kind of graphics quality of SH3 would be fantaqstic, but a sub sim, why bother?

OK some people might get a thrill shooting up some Japanese or Chinese junks, or taking pot shots at the Yamamoto once in a while. The simple fact is that for the latter part of the war most of the sub action in the Pacific was picking up downed airmen and infiltrating coast watchers behind enemy lines.

I'm simply not convineced the SH4 will have much of the holding power of SH3. This is not a rant against the US Navy or the skills of its submariners, they did score some successes and there is some history there. It's what the US Navy and its Allies did with their surface forces that actually count for something, their subs were really a side show unlike the Atlantic where the UBoat war had such devastating potential.

Hope I didnt offend any one, probably did, oh well.............

Consider this; two years ago when we were still waiting for SHIII and playing SHII, someonestarted a thread titled "Why SHI Is Still King". There are still a lot of people playing that 10-year-old sim, and a dedicated group of gamers who still play Pacific Thunder, which is a WAW-type online campaign using SHI.

There are a huge number of Americans who grew up watching movies like Run Silent, Run Deep and still love to recreate that feeling, plus quite a few others who just want the variety.

Bet it sells as well or better than SHIII.:up:

Rascal101 wrote:
Have you ever play Silent Hunter 1 or the Pacific Aces mod for Silent Hunter 2. If you have you would be drooling like the rest of us patiently waiting for SH4 as taking command of a US sub totally :rock: Although in my opinon the german uboats were the true seawolves, the american submariners had it much easier in the pacific going up against an enemy that really wasn't good at sinking subs compared to the british in the atlantic. But i can't actually recall im sure it was from the interview of a US sub commander in the Silent Hunter 1 game - he was asked did he ever come across german uboats when on patrol, he noted if we ever spotted a uboat we would try to avoid them. Dont know what this actually means but i see it as they didn't want to get in a conflict with a Uboat.:hmm:

You need to read some history, Japan's merchant marine was devasted by the US subs, once the torpedoes were fixed, thus neutralising a major reason why Japan went to war. To get the resources of S.E.Asia.

ooooh, I guessed you were an "action" man by the plane in your sig. What is it? A twin prop dung transporter? :lol:

I for one can't wait for SH4 and it's one of the few games I'll pay full price for...

....by the way, doesn't anyone else think IL2 is boring? I find those old junk planes are pretty slow compared to an F-16. That's why I play F4.0 AF...I'm an "action" man. :cool:

yeah, I know...was just baiting you. :lol: Used to play Aces High. I used to be an avid flight simmer as well. :rock:

I still play Red Baron. 'Death from above' at 90 miles per hour! Now THERE was action!

just going back to IL2 how much of a complicated game is it? i might buy it providing someone can give me their honest opinion plz:up:

It's very good. I wouldn't hesitate...especially now with the low price.

but is it really complicated